[palmotea]

> I’ve had the exact same experience. I’ve been vibe coding most of my research now, previously was an MLE handcrafting model code.

What happened to the MLE? Are they all going to end up that way?

> A lot of negative comments on here, which seems to always be the case with HN and vibe coding. The reality is that it’s actually starting to work, quite well.

It's hard to be positive about the idea of your skills getting devalued and getting kicked to the curb.

[jacobr1]

>It's hard to be positive about the idea of your skills getting devalued and getting kicked to the curb.

I think it depends where people build their own identities in the value stream. Do you see yourself as a product/hacker type person and writing code just is a blocker on delivering your vision? Building greenfield prototypes is now 100x easier! Do you see yourself as a craftsperson that brings years of experience to hard technical challenges? Some folks see AI as an attack, and some see it as a way to remove some drudgery while they focus on harder problems. It is about mindset.

What skills do you value?

[palmotea]

>> It's hard to be positive about the idea of your skills getting devalued and getting kicked to the curb.

> I think it depends where people build their own identities in the value stream. Do you see yourself as.... It is about mindset.

No. You're missing the point in a pretty serious way. In large part, we're talking about lower levels on the hierarchy of needs than that.

> Some folks see AI as an attack, and some see it as a way to remove some drudgery while they focus on harder problems.

Some folks see it as a way to remove hard problems so they can focus on drudgery. Do you love to code, but hate code reviews? Guess what you get to do more of now!

> Building greenfield prototypes is now 100x easier!

And then the boss-man can use his MBA, fire 90% of the team, pocket their wages, and get 10x the prototypes. Repeat that through the economy. Your teammates have 20 years to retirement and can't pay their mortgage. "Progress!," but for whom?

[jackphilson]

I suppose you would need to weigh the utility points lost from people no longer enjoying their jobs with the positive utility points gained by the consumers of products and services.

My intuition is that with the law of leverage in mind, the former would be relatively low and the latter would be relatively high.

It is of course up to the government and culture to minimize the former and maximize the latter.