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by flohofwoe 258 days ago
> russia had a deal for nato not to get close to its borders

This deal doesn't exist, at least anywhere on paper. There is an obligation related to the reunification of Germany that no NATO troops are stationed on the territory of former East Germany which has been honored by the reunited Germany.

Countries are also not forced into NATO, they ask to join.

> USSR, and Russia asked to get in NATO a few times and got pretty rude responses “no way”.

As far as I have read, Russia wanted to 'skip the queue' ahead of smaller countries. When this special treatment was denied, Russia suddenly didn't want to join anymore.

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about NATO expansion you’re right, never thought there is no public document, the only thing I found (looks not legit at all but it’s clear what’s government propaganda have in mind https://rg.ru/amp/2022/02/18/der-spiegel-obnaruzhen-dokument... )

Just before Ukraine invasion Zelensky speak up about cancelling Budapest memorandum https://amp.rbc.ru/rbcnews/politics/19/02/2022/621108ac9a794... That’s not a first time Ukraine presidents discuss this, but that timing was tough.

About Russia - NATO membership: western media hold narrative “in 1990s Russia was close – in 2007 Putin declared independent way of using energy and army resources”, but I find this 2001 Bush reaction humiliating (reasons unknown, pure subjective observation) https://youtu.be/x7kkRkWbIzI?si=LBhci7V_qdWDBDT9

Putin says he saw some secret KGB documents about the whole east-west situation when he became a president, idk if that’s legit at all.

I can only add up to the topic that in 90s almost all oil/gas in Russia was exported by western companies, and only in 2002 all sources became formerly owned by russian companies and citizens. As for now 20% Rosneft still held by BP Russian Investments Limited.