[gambiting]

>>Starlink in particular is one of the most successful pro-humanitarian engineering projects that I can think of in maybe the last 20 years.

Better than gates' effort to eradicate malaria?

Sorry to be snarky, but to me Starlink is something rich people in rural England have, because it's slightly easier than paying OpenReach to connect them to proper network. And it's hard to imagine anyone else being their clients, at the prices that they charge.

[robotresearcher]

> one of the most successful pro-humanitarian engineering projects

That claim does not exclude Gate’s projects or any other as being superior. You’re looking for conflict that isn’t there.

Starlink is used all over the world, by regional governments, NGOs and companies where it’s too expensive for individuals.

You might well find that rich English people are subsidizing the project for poorer people elsewhere.

[elcritch]

Access to information has historically been a great equalizer.

Not to diminish Gates’ malaria efforts, but remote villages having access to information about malaria and prevention methods could be helpful. Along with techniques for filtering water, etc. Access to telehealth.

[HanClinto]

> Sorry to be snarky, but to me Starlink is something rich people in rural England have

Yeah, so our perspectives may differ a bit. My personal focus has primarily been with Africa, where Starlink is truly transformative. Demand for Starlink may be underwhelming in developed countries (such as your "rural England" example), while in underdeveloped countries, the demand regularly outstrips the supply [0]. I love that it's affordable enough for my African colleagues to use. In the last couple of weeks, I've had more than one full-motion screen-sharing video call to northern Nigeria (I.E., not the capital city) to do collaborative engineering. Even just a handful of years ago, this would not have been possible before Starlink was available.

I'm not casting any shade on malaria eradication -- that is awesome as well. I can love both things, but the subject here is Starlink, and I want to underscore how truly impressive and effective Starlink has been for advancing infrastructure in a quantum leap.

Improving African infrastructure has been an extremely difficult problem for a very long time (for a quagmire of reasons -- regulatory, power, cost, distribution, etc etc etc). I think most people in the developed world simply don't understand how challenging it is to live day-to-day without solid and reliable infrastructure, or how effective Starlink has been in improving that. Very few other projects have been THIS successful at THIS scale. I think more people should be aware of the good that it does.

It has been a disruptive technology in so many of the best ways.

* [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42408457

[marcus_holmes]

Come to Australia, see the remote communities that were abandoned by NBN (well, gaslit and then completely screwed by Murdoch manipulating Abbot to sabotage the NBN). Starlink is literally a lifesaver for them.