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by alexey-salmin 254 days ago
> > This makes sense in certain situations but presenting this as a green solution or as future of humanity is just delusional.

> which is probably the reason why China installs absolutely HUGE numbers of panels. But according to you, they must be "delusional" over there.

State-run economies get delusional pretty easily, but in this case China is safely on the "makes sense in certain situations" side:

* keep electricity prices low

* invest heavily in nuclear

* install solar within reasonable limits (currently around 8% of the grid)

* for better or for worse they burn more and more coal every year

They certainly don't make insane green commitments and they don't say solar is the future of humanity. I don't like China much, but I don't see how they can fall into "delusional" category according to my criteria above, they have none of it.

Now Germany's policy is the complete opposite of China's, except for the "burning coal" part. Germany killed their own economy over high electricity prices because they wanted to go green, but then somehow they've got almost 2x CO2 emissions per capita compared to France.

If someone says "I sacrifice A to get B", but then never get the B and still lose A, and then insist that the plan was a great success -- he's certainly delusional, that's like the definition of the word.