[holowoodman]

Problem with motorcycles in Germany is, they are usually too fast for the police to catch with their car, and the helmet prevents usable photos of the driver. But unfortunately the laws require that the driver committing the speed/noise/redlight offense is identified and fined, fining the owner by license plate doesn't work (except if the bike was modified).

[herbst]

Is that why some YouTubers started to make ads for a "sue your motorcycle speeding tickets invalid" company as if this is really working, because it is?

Germany has such a specific way of making laws with holes.

[1718627440]

I'm not so sure that's actually true, because when you get a speeding ticket, the owner absolutely is fined. He has a right to identify the driver or just take it on himself.

[holowoodman]

The owner also has the right to refuse saying anything, in which case it is on the police to prove who the driver was. For cars, that's usually easy, because they just compare the ticket photo to your drivers license photo or passport photo on file. For motorcycles, the ticket photo is usually useless, so if the owner refuses to identify himself or someone else, and the police cannot prove anything, the motorcycle owner goes unticketed.

[herbst]

If you Google "geblitzt anzweifeln" or something you find several companies doing exactly that. Most claim something like 50% of speeding tickets are wrong. One site claims they make 12% of their cases invalid.

I really have no idea about all that. Just some absurdity I recently noticed.