[bobxmax]

As someone from (and who lives) in the developing + non-aligned part of the world, I'm always amazed at how ingrained hatred for anything western and non-democratic is for Americans.

Anything that isn't a so-called democracy with so-called western values (which change every 10 years) is patently evil.

Is this a relic of cold war propaganda? I hate to call it "brainwashing" because that's a very politically charged word but it's a belief that's so ubiquitous and immediate it surprises me. Especially for a culture with such anti-authoritarian cultural history.

Not defending CPP by any means just always find it funny from a vantage point of being surrounded on both sides by extremely large pot and kettle.

[UltraSane]

Dude. The CCP sucks. Just ask Jack Ma or Gedhun Choekyi Nyima

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedhun_Choekyi_Nyima

[maleldil]

The American "democracy" also sucks. Just ask anyone in Latin America who had to live under US-backed dictatorships, or those in Middle Eastern countries that were destabilised or destroyed by American influence. Or the immigrants (or citizens that happen to look like immigrants) under siege in the country right now. I could go on for a long, long time.

[UltraSane]

Whataboutism is boring and lame.

[StarterPro]

Yes, ask the billionaire how the anti-billionaire country treated him.

Here's a hint: not well.

[UltraSane]

What about the 6 year old child the CCP abducted for political purposes?

And what makes you say that the CCP is anti-billionaire?

[bobxmax]

Yes. They suck. They've also never done anything remotely as bad as the US did in Iraq.

That's my point. Americans act like China is the great evil... it's quite strange.

[UltraSane]

"'ve also never done anything remotely as bad as the US did in Iraq."

Ask Tibetens about that. The US left Iraq but the CCP still controls Tibet and oppresss native Tibetans. Or the Uyghurs that the CCP are brutally persecuting. Or the Falun Gong. The CCP also is a strong ally of the despicable North Korean government and sends North Koreans in China back to North Korea to face long prison sentences or execution.

The CCP is very evil at violating individual human rights. And smart people defending their behavior is very odd

[bobxmax]

Nobody is defending their behavior. You're just proving the brainwashing point I made by instinctively going into attack dog mode making silly arguments.

And no, China's oppression of Tibet is nothing close to a million dead Iraqis and an ancient country turned into a failed state. The fact you'd even make such a goofy comparison shows how deep American indoctrination runs.

Your tax dollars are still torturing brown people without trial in Gitmo and genociding Palestinians btw.

[UltraSane]

"Nobody is defending their behavior"

You are by minimizing it.

"China's oppression of Tibet is nothing close to a million dead Iraqis"

At least the US got rid of Saddam. China is still oppressing the hell out of Tibet.

"The fact you'd even make such a goofy comparison shows how deep American indoctrination runs."

The fact that you consider this to BE a "goofy comparison" shows how deep your pro-CCP indoctrination runs.

"genociding Palestinians"

If you consider what Israel is doing to Palestinians to be genocide then you have to consider what the CCP is doing to the Uyghurs to be a genocide also. But you seem very selective with your outrage.

[bobxmax]

I'm not going to debate someone who compares Tibetan political opression with a million dead Iraqis and the brutal carpet bombing and turning an ancient country and people into a failed state. Or who thinks the Uyghur re-education camps, however terrible, are in any way comparable to 20,000 dead Gazan children.

You have psychological problems and are beyond reasoning with. Like I said, brainwashed.