[_z7iw]

"the ones who consider themselves"

your words betray black and white thinking that demonstrates obvious externalization of responsibility. look up "splitting". it's a psychological defense mechanism.

if you were on the spiritual and moral ground you represent yourself as being on, no one else's actions or stance would change your opinion on whether they deserve love and a psychologically/relationally secure response from you. when someone is psychologically insecure, they overreact, hold double standards, externalize responsibility, and project their own insecurity as a moral flaw onto others. the term "narcissistic defenses" appears in literature. this is why it's so hard to talk to you. you are perpetuating the conflict by using the "logic" you are using. in reality you are displaying entitlement and grandiosity. and that prevents you from admitting it.

an eye for an eye makes the world blind, big man.

realistically, it's your own people and your own children and parts of yourselves that you are attempting to destroy and alienate. You're being used and you're using people.

Just for some agenda that you don't even understand but are all too willing to deploy propaganda to argue for. You remind me of a cult member or someone my grandparents fought against in WW2. Those "Arabs" are just taking your living room, aren't they?

[dotancohen]

  > Those "Arabs" are just taking your living room, aren't they?

Those Arabs were actually in the living rooms of my friends and co-workers two years ago, yes in fact. Two women I know had their babies burned to death. My daughter's classmate was murdered along with both his siblings and both his parents in their living room. My son's camp counselor was dragged off to Gaza and murdered - pulled out of his bedroom. I could go on and on and on, these are just examples of people whom the Arabs were in their living rooms recently. In fact, one man that I would occasionally have breakfast with, though he wasn't a close friend, is still in Gaza today. He was dragged out of his own living room or bedroom, yes.

[_z7iw]

You're just proving my point.

You have some growing up to do.

You have become worse than them. Until you admit this, you will not be better. And I know that you don't care about being better anymore. You're just a racist looking to wipe out an ethnic group, not even an ideology. It's in your words.

Shame on you. If and when history confirms that your self-entitlement was the cause of the attacks you would deny it for a long time, just as you are now.

By the way, you're talking to someone whose family is from there as well. You're not the only one who has lost people. What you are doing is attempting to justify the perpetuation of an asymmetric response because you cannot admit your own falsehood, ignorance, and lack of relational depth.

If you really are the stronger and more justified party, you can chill out and allow justice to take its course. Instead, you have lost the support of your allies because you have become the murderers you decried.

This conflict will stop when you can admit that. The obvious solution that you are proposing is the elimination of a group of people, not an ideology. And that is why you can go straight to hell.

[_z7iw]

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[tomhow]

Please don't comment like this on HN. The guidelines call on us to more thoughtful and substantive, not less, when a topic is divisive. This is clearly inflammatory, and not the right way to discuss difficult topics here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html