[Lio]

Really? I think Renault are on a roll at the moment.

The Renault 4, Renault 5 and Megan seem really competitive.

The new Nissan Leaf (made in UK) also looks pretty good.

VAG seem to have lost the plot (“let’s replace all the controls with a small, janky touch system that leaks personal information to hackers”) but their ID.7 isn’t total crap.

Comparing Renaults to the Chinese brands I’ve seen (MG and BYD) the Chinese brands were a bit cheaper but they really felt it with cheap interiors and uncomfortable seats. I’d rather pay a grand more and get a car I like.

[stavros]

I have a BYD Seal and it's by far the most luxurious and best quality car I've owned, and my previous car was a Mercedes. I don't know what you've tried, but it doesn't feel cheap at all

[Lio]

I only buy mass-market cars. I've looked at MG 4s, 5s and BYD Dolphins. I didn't rate any of them.

I view all cars as depreciating liabilities and so have little interest in buy either Seal or its Mercedes equivalent.

[izacus]

ID.7 is the most sold EV model in EU so "not total crap" is an interesting definition. Other ID models are selling well too

[pxndx]

What's your source? it's the 5th in this ranking I found: https://autovista24.autovistagroup.com/news/europes-best-sel...

[izacus]

Eh, it was Germany this year: https://www.goingelectric.de/zulassungszahlen/2025/Februar/

Still, 5th is far from "eh" - on a test drive it ended up quite a nice Passat level car.