[ssl232]

The iPhone did everything the Nokia 3310 did, better. Electric cars do not (yet) do better some things hybrids do, such as being able to be fuelled with 400+ miles of range in 5 minutes.

I’m nowhere near the point of wanting an electric car to replace my hybrid. The convenience of petrol and the cost of electricity is too high. High electricity costs aren’t going to be fixed in my country any time soon so Toyota will continue to have a huge market here.

[discordance]

Very little maintenance is one big feature. After 3 years I have only had to change the tires, air filter and windscreen wipers.

For long road trips I’ve never had an issue stopping to rest/stretch while fast charging for between 15-30 mins.

[SirHumphrey]

Sure, but we are talking about a Toyota so there is (at least in my experience) not that much maintenance to begin with.

[dotancohen]

Toyotas may need less repairs than other vehicles, but of course they have the same maintenance schedules and costs as other vehicles.

Compare periodic oil changes, spark plug changes, ignition coils, stolen catalytic converters, exhaust system, PCV system, air and fuel filters, brake pads, transmission fluid, and other ICE maintenance items with the electric drivetrain. At 120,000 km I've replaced the tires once and the brake pads look brand new. That's it. Even the windshield wipers are still in good shape for some reason.

[theoreticalmal]

Oil filters and brakes are on the easier spectrum of maintainenance, but I’d still rather not do them if I don’t have to (which with my EV, I won’t)

[tonmoy]

Most EVs these days can recharge 300ish miles in 15 mins, but 99% of the time I don’t even have to drive anywhere to refuel as it get recharged overnight in my garage. EVs are waaay more efficient in terms of MPGe so at least for me it is less half in terms of cost to refuel compared to petrol not even considering the external cost of emitting CO2

[bigstrat2003]

15 minutes is still not as good as the 2 minutes it takes to fill up a gas tank. Electric cars just aren't there yet for long drives, though they are great for everyday driving around town.

[snowwrestler]

The iPhone actually had way worse battery life than basically any Nokia. It’s a great comparison. People happily traded more features for having to plug their phone in every night.

[numpad0]

iPhone also had same modem as everyone. It wasn't a Wi-Fi device, it was a phone-computer hybrid.

Compared to that, EVs feel more like Wi-Fi or WiMAX device that owners would say theirs are daily drivable but only make Discord calls. Overall situation more closely resemble PDAs before iPhone.

[stavros]

Just make sure you don't drive one, or you'll change your mind.

[iwontberude]

We’ve been driving them for over a decade now. They aren’t new anymore, and they still aren’t a panacea. There is this cool thing called car rental, it lets you use cars that aren’t your own.

[stavros]

There's also this thing called reading comprehension, I don't know where you can rent it, but sometimes it does help on online forums.

[iwontberude]

There’s also a thing called repeating a joke format for effect. And it’s not a very good effect.

[stavros]

I can see that.

[iwontberude]

Wait was your original comment being sarcastic? Because if so, spot on. They really do be speaking like that.