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Currently EV's are the iPhones to Toyota's Nokia and they're going to have to work very hard very soon to turn that around or their company will die.

Fixed that for you. I give Tesla another 2-5 years before their number is up and they'll limp along and become another also ran.

There's no way they can compete with what's to come and even what's happening now.

I have some friends, who are definitely not HN readers or avid followers of the EV market, and they've already swapped out their Teslas for BYD. It didn't take much for them to make the move. And what's coming is already far beyond what Tesla have on the table.

They had a good ride. And definitely should be credited with being the starting gun on one chapter of automotive revolution. But it's over for them (in the EV space). They know it too ... hence their attempted pivot to ... * insert flavour of the month*