[u5wbxrc3]

Googles decisision to add developer verification killed my interest in handset development entirely. But hey, at least I know what to focus my time on rather than third party app development ie. F-Droid. I look at my android phone differently now that its on the table which sucks but hey they made me switch my development time to linux drivers now instead.

[MrDresden]

After 15 years of professional development on Android I too am now thinking about switching my focus to something different. And it sucks.

Just wished there was a viable* FOSS Linux based mobile OS project out there that I could offer my time and energy to instead.

[drnick1]

Aren't Graphene and Lineage exactly that?

I have been running Graphene on a Pixel for a while now and I don't think Linux phones are a viable alternative. The vast majority of Android apps just work on Graphene, and there are millions of them. The UI experience is polished, everything just works with the exception of apps that require Google Play Integrity. And of course these projects aren't affected by Google's restrictions on sideloading.

[MrDresden]

Look I love that GrapheneOS exists, and I have used it in the past (as have I with Lineage).

But GrapheneOS lives by the mercy of Google. Pixel devices being reference devices makes it so that it's unlikely that Google will close them down completely.

However, as can be seen with this verification move, Google is willing to go very far to accomplish its aims. They already delayed delivery of Android 16 images, causing GrapheneOS some headaches.

Who is to say more isn't to come.

[fluidcruft]

Google also announced that Pixel devices are no longer reference devices. The reference device is now some VM.

[bitwize]

Waydroid exists and a mobile distro that provided Waydroid OOTB would be as usable as a full-on Android phone. You could even build it to remove the app verification stuff if that found its way into AOSP.