[sharkweek]

I’ve got “normie” friends who I’d bet don’t even know that what Google has at the top of their search results is “AI” results and instead assume it’s just some extension of the normal search results we’ve all gotten used to (knowledge graph)

Every one of them refers to using “ChatGPT” when talking about AI.

How likely is it to stay that way? No idea, but OpenAI has clearly captured a notable amount of mindshare in this new era.

[bashtoni]

In the UK, everyone refers to a vacuum as a 'hoover'. They are not the dominant vacuum brand there despite the massive name recognition.

[amonith]

Same with "Pampers" in Poland. Everyone says "pampersy" when referring to just generic diapers. Almost nobody buys the literal "Pampers" brand.

[InsideOutSanta]

I'm not sure if physical products are analogous to internet services. If all it took to vacuum your house was typing "Hoover" into a browser, and everyone called vacuums "a Hoover," then I would expect Hoover to have 90% of the vacuum market share.

But since buying a vacuum usually involves going to a store, looking at available devices, and paying for them, the value of a brand name is less significant.

[abustamam]

Pre-pandemic, at least in my social circles, "Skype" was the term for video calling. "Hey, wanna Skype?" and we'd hop on a discord call.

Post-pandemic, at work and such, "Zoom" has become synonymous for work call. Whether it's via Slack or Google Meet, or even Zoom, we use the term Zoom.

I don't know what the market share is on Skype (Pre-pandemic) or Zoom, but these common terms appear to exist for software.

[lkramer]

their own fault :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_free_flights_promotion

[MrDisposable]

'Pampers' and 'Xerox' in Russia.

[cwsx]

BAND-AID is another one

[card_zero]

And "generic trademark" is the Wikipedia article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark

Huh, bubble wrap, even.

[jb3689]

On the other hand, no one cares about Velcro or Tupperware

[Naracion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRi8LptvFZY

Video description, from the Velcro brand YouTube channel:

Our Velcro Brand Companies legal team decided to clear a few things up about using the VELCRO® trademark correctly – because they’re lawyers and that’s what they do. When you use “velcro” as a noun or a verb (e.g., velcro shoes), you diminish the importance of our brand and our lawyers lose their insert fastening sound. So please, do not say “velcro shoes” (or “velcro wallet” or “velcro gloves”) - we repeat “velcro” is not a noun or a verb. VELCRO® is our brand. #dontsayvelcro

[philipallstar]

Tannoy another.

[chii]

when people started referring to searching the internet as googling, they know their brand has made it.

It is the same with chatGPT.

[wltr]

Even I often tell I chatgeepeeteed the result, in the same fashion when I continue saying I googled the result, while actually I used Duck Duck Go. I could ask another LLM provider, but I have no idea how to communicate that properly to a non-technical folks. Heck, I don’t want to communicate that _properly_ to tech peers either. I don’t like these pedantic phrases ‘well, actually … that wasn’t Google, I used DDG for that.’ Sometimes I can say ‘web search,’ but ‘I googled that’ is just more natural thing to say.

Same here. I tried saying ‘I asked LLM’ or ‘I asked AI’ but that doesn’t sound right for me. So, in most conversations I say ‘I asked Chat GPT’ and in most of these situations, it feels like the exact provider does not matter, since essentially they are very similar in their nature.

[abustamam]

I cheekily refer to it as Al (like, short for Albert) because Google seems to love to shove Al's overviews in my search results.

But when I'm being more serious I'd usually just say "I asked GPT"

I have a colleague who just refers to AI as "Chat" which I think is kinda cute, but people also use the term "chat" to refer to... Like, people, or "yall". Or to their stream chat.

[hollerith]

I recently used "an unreliable source that gives fast answers to questions" in a comment here. I think I will keep on using it.

[wltr]

Hey, that’s a nice one!

[vinhcognito]

I like to go with 'I asked my bot|chatbot'

[anon1395]

>I asked AI doesn't sound right for me.

That's a you thing.

[wltr]

Hey, but it’s not AI!

[jandy]

Yep, this. I’ve switched to Claude for a while (because I can’t afford max plans for both) and nobody in the real world has any idea what it is I’m talking about. “Oh it’s like ChatGPT?”

[gopheryourshelf]

Claude is also difficult to consistently pronounce for a non-English speaker. Sometimes people dont say that because it can get misinterpreted. ChatGPT is something easy on the the tongue and very difficult to mis-pronounce.

[nasmorn]

I know a lot of people who refer to it as ChatGTP which I assume stands for German treebrained performers

[suspended_state]

https://chat.mistral.ai/chat/12da2e83-f3f1-4a47-b432-753cac2...

I suspect they chose that name because of the proximity with the word "cloud".

[viking123]

The CEO is also more puritan than the pope himself considering the amount of censorship it has. Not sure if they are even interested in marketing to normies though.

[sieve]

> The CEO is also more puritan than the pope himself considering the amount of censorship it has.

In that case, you should try OpenAI's gpt-oss!

Both models are pretty fast for their size and I wanted to use them to summarize stories and try out translation. But it keeps checking everything against "policy" all the time! I created a jailbreak that works around this, but it still wastes a few hundred tokens talking about policy before it produces useful output.

[gmerc]

Surely someone has abliterated it by now

[MediumOwl]

Ah yes, the Latin-originating French name that has a variant at least in every Latin language is hard to pronounce for non-English users.

[prism56]

When I talk about any AI usage I do. I just say chatgpt to any friends.