[cyberpunk]

Ah then cut off the whole region entirely. Makes perfect sense.

Here's a crazy idea. If hamas steal even 90% of the food, why not flood the area with so much fucking food it becomes worthless instead of letting humans starve as terrible collateral against your war goals?

Which approach do you think better serves the stated goals of defeating the terrorists?

Nah, isolation and cruelty it is. Israel has created generations of enemies.

[actionfromafar]

And pissed away generations of goodwill (deserved or not) abroad. The damage to the Israeli state is incalculable.

[sgjohnson]

> The damage to the Israeli state is incalculable.

Is it? Because not even the Arab countries that have recently recognized Israel don’t seem to particularly care about what Israel does in Gaza. Aside from a press release or a vote at the UN. All empty words.

Not a single Arab country that recognizes Israel has suspended (or even lowered) diplomatic relations with Israel.

I’m pretty sure that once the war in Gaza ends, everyone will be all too happy to forget that it even happened. Even if they won’t say it out loud.

[JumpCrisscross]

> once the war in Gaza ends, everyone will all too be happy to forget that it even happened. Even if they won’t say it out loud.

It may have a lasting effect in America. Which would mean Israel finding friends in Russia, China and/or India, the latter two which would probably be fully on board with an actual ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

[actionfromafar]

The whole EU is debating putting sanctions on Israel. Even if it doesn't happen this time, it's a major shift of the Overton window.

[JumpCrisscross]

> whole EU is debating putting sanctions on Israel

Not really. It's debating applying "tariffs on some Israeli goods and impos[ing] sanctions on Israeli settlers, and two members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Cabinet" [1].

(The EC has also endorsed Trump's 20-point plan [2].)

[1] https://apnews.com/article/eu-israel-sanctions-tariffs-gaza-...

[2] https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025...

[sgjohnson]

Eh. Just about everyone is doing the absolute best they can to give an impression that they are doing something about it, without actually doing anything meaningful at all.

Even the recent recognition of the Palestinian state from Canada, UK and France. They know full and well that it’s basically a meaningless gesture.

[JumpCrisscross]

> why not flood the area with so much fucking food it becomes worthless instead of letting humans starve as terrible collateral against your war goals?

...this is a really good idea. And American farmers are over a barrel due to tariffs...