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by mvdtnz 258 days ago
I won't comment on the validity of patents or legal stuff because I don't know. But Strava is playing a very dangerous game here with their user base. I would hazard that a very large segment of their users are far more enthusiastic about Garmin than they are about Strava itself. Do you really want to anger your own users?

Even if Strava wins, they lose.

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Interestingly a Strava higher up posted their point of view on a Strava Reddit, which was met with a lot of ridicule from Strava users there.

They claim that your sports data is yours, and have issue with Garmin requiring their logo or a snippet of text on each activity that came from Garmin. A few users recounted that Strava screwed over their own API developers the other year and tried to do something with their activity data themselves (selling it off or something).

If the lawsuit leads to some sort of meaningful action and users are given the choice of Garmin or Strava, obviously they're going to stick with the hardware they have bought and own, above an app that relies on the former.

All of the features Strava claims breached their patent were in Garmin before Strava patented them.

I think Strava just doesn't know where to go from here. They already have a complete product, which they keep tacking gimmicks onto (Athlete Intelligence), and which probably already has the most users it's going to have. Now it just has to squeeze them endlessly for more money through higher subscription fees and ads (like the ads they masquerade as challenges).

The reddit post is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Strava/s/CzTIGS3RI3

As a reminder, we are on a subreddit called ‘r/strava’ made up of loyal users. The story about user data is that in 2024, Strava changed its terms of service and API guide. They decreed that the data belonged to them because they had processed and collected it. They also declared that they had the right to disconnect and kill any projects that vaguely competed with an existing Strava feature, such as ‘displaying public statistics’. The backlash was significant.

Example https://www.trailforks.com/blog/view/changes-to-strava-activ...

You have to be a real hypocrite after all that to try to elicit sympathy and claim to be a defender of users and their data.