[CuriouslyC]

The final AI push that doesn't lead to a winter will look like a bubble until it hits. We're realistically ~3 years away from fully autonomous software engineering (let's say 99.9% for a concrete target) if we can shift some research and engineering resources towards control, systems and processes. The economic value of that is hard to overstate.

[piva00]

You are basically saying "it's different this time" with a lot of words.

[reliabilityguy]

> We're realistically ~3 years away from fully autonomous software engineering

We had Waymo cars about 18 years ago, and only recently they started to roll out commercially. Just saying.

[fragmede]

This isn't a comment on timelines, but a Waymo going wild is going to run over and kill people, so it makes sense to be overly conservative with moving forwards. Meanwhile, if someone hacks into a vibecoded website and deletes everything and steals my user data, no one's getting run over by a car.

[reliabilityguy]

Sure. The point I was trying to make is that we can see a technology that is amazing, and seemingly does what we want, and yet has so many edge cases that make it unviable commercially.

[fragmede]

Have you tried Comma.ai? While Waymo and Tesla are trying to make fully self-driving autonomous taxi-grade AI and are taking forever to deliver, geohot casually makes the box that we all really want. A device that hooks into your car, and handles left right gas and brakes on the freeway. I can handle the driving between my house and the freeway, and the freeway offramp to my destination, it's the stop and go traffic on the freeway or just sitting there for hours that sucks ass.

We can see a technology and its shortcomings and people will still pay for it. Early cars were trash, but now look where we are.