[bexsella]

I would argue that the ending of the book is optimistic despite the event that precedes it. An imperfect father wants the best for his child, and does the best he can with the hand he's dealt. In a dying world of cannibals and worse, there are people who are good, and whose surroundings don't poison their view on what it means to be good. "Do you carry the fire?" is, to my mind, an incredibly optimistic sentiment.

[BrenBarn]

The ending is definitely the most optimistic part of the book, but on balance I think the overall picture is still excruciatingly bleak. It gives me the impression that any optimism of the part of the characters is likely unwarranted. They're still doomed.

[justupvoting]

The point is that everyone is doomed (even if you imagine we can survive the civilization-murdering tools we've cobbled up, we can't outrun physics), but that even at our most vulnerable, since the book occurs during a period directly after Armageddon, it is possible for some goodness in us to persist.

I don't want to spoil, but the optimism isn't for the characters, it's for we the reader, and the species.

The thimble of fire joins the wider flame. Goodness survives even there, and even then.

[BrenBarn]

Yes, but I wouldn't call that optimistic. It's just an epsilon away from 100% pessimism.

[justupvoting]

If you say so. I think we could agree that when it comes to McCarthy, one has to grade on a curve.