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> We expect huge swaths of non-programmers to learn R to work with data.

I’ve worked in academics and industry around biologists, chemists, physicists, statisticians, bioinformaticians, and all varieties of engineers.

I’ve never seen “huge swaths” of anyone expected to learn R for anything outside of a few niche areas in statistics and bioinformatics.

What people are expected to know is how to use a spreadsheet. What people are often given is Microsoft Excel, and essentially nothing else. A lot of companies wouldn’t dream of letting random employees install or use R or Python.

It’s not ideal. But some battles can’t be won and aren’t worth fighting. Which is why people use Excel for so many things.