[justinator]

Chances that there are both a folding iPhone and a Touchscreen Mac somewhere in the skunk works of Cupertino are 100%.

The Apple Vision Pro was a far more extreme product and was kept pretty well under wraps. (tho a market failure).

[dwaite]

The line for market success for a first generation, $3500 VR headset is drawn in different places for different people.

[justinator]

Market success? I'd go with profitability.

Beta quality and expense without value are just some of the reasons for it's failure.