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by array_key_first 261 days ago
> Your use of the "playing stupid" cudgel is not helpful.

Its not meant to be helpful, it's meant to be true. Sorry about it.

> Uhhh, yeah. Instead of crippling society by suggesting we remove our eyeballs or brains (or their electronic equivalents), let's fix the actual problems.

Ahh see here's the underlying problem: you have a religious belief that you're quickly trying to pass off as an argument!

You cannot, under any circumstances, just compare humans to computers for free.

Humans have special rights, and have always had special rights, forever. You cannot just undo millions of years of understanding and expect me to go along with it.

A camera DOES NOT HAVE RIGHTS. A camera is not an eyeball. And LLM is not a brain. And so on and so on.

Some LLM singularly type folk, call them tech Christians, hold the belief that technology will soon supercede humanity and therefore LLMs are equivalent to Brains.

But that is a belief. Let me repeat that. That is a belief. That is not argument.

Right now, computer programs do not have rights. Its not an if, not a but, not a maybe - they don't have rights.

We're allowed to do this because we are human. We give ourselves special privileges.

That's why if I eat a good steak then that's just a nice dinner. But if I chop you up and eat you, I'm going to prison.

We haven't even given fucking cows rights yet. And they're literally alive and conscious. We can't just give cameras or programs rights. Come on man.

> Instead of accusing others of playing dumb, let's hear: how do _you_ see an internet age free of patriarchal and sexist structures emerging?

Slowly, over time, and predominantly not by objectifying women by proposing we should be allowed to take naked pictures of them whenever we want. Duh.