[mingus88]

For those of us online in the 90s we don’t have to wonder

It was literally a utopia before business came along. Every site was built from passion, with no expectation of getting anything in return. It was a global community centered around sharing knowledge.

I’d go one step further and ban the consolidation of platforms by billionaires. The open internet no longer exists or will ever exist again

[jjpones]

I am younger, being part of online forum communities in the late 2000s (primarily video games and art centric ones) and I truly pine for the era of the internet free from algorithmic feeds, infinite content scrolls and profit incentives. There was some profit incentive, but it was purely for administrative purposes to keep the site up.

[positron26]

> Every site was built from passion, with no expectation of getting anything in return. It was a global community centered around sharing knowledge.

It's a bit of false nostalgia but also it was the era of early adopters. Their concentrations in new spaces always make them better because their motivations are perpetually directed outward from where we are as a civilization. They frequently have to move on as the space they create for themselves becomes drowned out. HN has attempted to remain relatively secluded, and that has been effective up to a point.

The real dilemma there is that the early adopters who make things good need isolation while the "go with the flow" crowd needs a way to support early adopters without themselves getting in the way. Just from a basic computer science perspective, the early adopters need ways to create efficient back-pressure on later adopters so that early adopters can exist without permanently being chased and drowned out by later adopters.

The internet created something analogous to a 2D plain-world where nothing was out of reach for anyone. Without creating some 3D structure, some stratification so that people who get out of the plain can more directly communicate at longer distance, the noise is so inefficient that only those who don't value their time or those who profit off of the poor connectivity will participate.

Baking fresh cinnamon toast comes to mind. Some will accuse me of becoming distracted, but it used to be more common to speak on every open-access forum as if talking to another person in the room. We still do on different formats like IRC or less serious threads of less serious places, but it is diminished as internet culture emerged. Internet culture sometimes expects you to treat every conversation as a conversation with a forum full of angry combatants. A little bit of structure would re-humanize that culture by putting us back into our more human-sized enclaves where there is no need to gatekeep and no audience to perform to.