[huem0n]

> Bullying happens in other species outside humans even. It is very deep evolutionary behavior.

In animals, male parents often kill weak children. Doesn't really mean we just say "oh well, its in our DNA". Over and over society has managed to successfully surpress biological behaviors to nearly zero.

I hope we can agree its an endeavor worth putting effort into. Right?

> The vast majority of school shooters (100%, surely) are mentally ill and had access to a gun.

1. Having a mental illness does not make a person violent. Step one of better mental health (illness or no illness) is reducing bullying.

2. Saying "100% surely" is not very convincing to me. What percentage of shooters are suspected to be born with a mental illness? (Rather than forming one from environmental factors) what data/sources is that conclusion based on?

[asdff]

If you are willing to kill someone like this you are not sane. I don't know what to tell you.

[pessimizer]

> Having a mental illness does not make a person violent. Step one of better mental health (illness or no illness) is reducing bullying.

Why are you saying something this silly in public? Bullying is not the primary cause of mental illness, and mental illness can cause violence. You must be caught up in having an argument, because you wouldn't deny either of these things if you took a moment.

You're just buying into the every school shooter is a victim argument that has been thrown around since Columbine. Those boys were not bullied, they were bullies. It's one of a cluster of vile narratives about youth that have been going around for a decade or two: telling children that 1) if they take a gun to school and start shooting people, that it's the school and the students who got shot who were at fault, and 2) if you kill yourself, you'll get revenge on the people who "made you" kill yourself; they'll be shown to be cruel, and punished.

People who spread that crap hate children imo. They will believe it, and can feel very helpless because growing up is tough.

[bragh]

> Those boys were not bullied, they were bullies.

That is a very unnuanced take on the thing if you read more about the incident and the background of it besides Cullen's book.