[chongli]

It's really funny to me as well. All this effort put into low level performance seems like picking up pennies in front of a steamroller. The operating system (and core business software such as Office) is overflowing with bloat that absolutely tanks the performance and responsiveness of the system. On a fresh boot I might as well go for a 15 minute coffee break lest I end up with multiple hung applications blocked on the UI thread.

[thewebguyd]

It's so bad that Microsoft is actually going to start preloading Office on boot to speed up the application start times.

It was quite the shock to me recently when I had to use a Surface Laptop (the ARM one). Snapdragon X Elite & 32GB of RAM and took almost double the time to get to the desktop from a cold start compared to my M2 Air. Then even once everything was loaded, interacting with the system just did not feel responsive at all, the most egregious being file explorer and the right click menu.

And I have my own gripes with macOS feeling like it's slow due to the animations and me wanting to move faster than it can. Windows used to happily oblige, but now it's laggy.

Microsoft is too caught up in shoving Copilot everywhere to care though.

[tredre3]

> It's so bad that Microsoft is actually going to start preloading Office on boot to speed up the application start times.

Office has been preloading on startup since Windows 95.

[xenophonf]

It's bad everywhere. Every time I've upgraded Ubuntu on my old laptop, performance gets worse and worse because more and more junk keeps getting added. Absolutely maddening.

[Scramblejams]

Is it the desktop environment or background stuff that’s getting worse for you? If the former: FWIW I was pleasantly surprised when I switched back to Kubuntu. KDE’s surprisingly resource efficient these days, actually seems pretty close to XFCE.

[xenophonf]

I'm not sure and don't have the patience to check.

I might go back to Debian. I'm only really using Ubuntu since that and RHEL are what we use at work.

[exe34]

my nixos with just xmonad works really well, I haven't noticed any degradation in the last 10 years of updates.

[xenophonf]

NixOS looks super cool, but it also looks too much like actual work. As a FreeBSD main for two decades, I've played that game already and have the (sadly, now long dead) tinderbox and poudriere installations to prove it.