[johnea]

To me the title of this article, and several points contained within, where overly broad.

They give the impression that _having_ microbes in your mouth and on your skin is a cancer risk, which is most definitely not the case.

The connection between the microbiome and cancer and heart disease is coming more to light. And the articles point that certain microbes may contribute to cancer risk sounds like another significant new finding.

But having a sterile environment in the mouth or on the skin is certainly detrimental to health.

Like the gut microbiome, it's the content that counts, not whether to have one or not...

[ortusdux]

The wording seems causational, while the data indicates a correlation.

"Altogether, the entire group of microbes boosted participants’ chances of developing the cancer by more than threefold."

I feel like you would need a study that observes the effect of introducing or remove these microbes from a population before you can draw this conclusion.

[blindriver]

> But having a sterile environment in the mouth or on the skin is certainly detrimental to health.

Can you point to a study that suggests this? I have no opinion one way or another but making statements like this without any backing is misinformation.

[ebolyen]

It is the initial purpose of a microbiome to be at least commensal, in that it is usually prohibitively expensive to maintain a sterile environment so the odds of a true pathogen colonizing a system is greatly reduced if you simply have a crowded space of neutral participants.

Once that's true it does seem there's a lot of host and microbiome interactions we've only begun to explore, but it shouldn't be surprising that co-evolution of the microbiome and host begins to take over as soon as you have one. One great example is short-chain-fatty-acid (SCFA) producing bacteria in the human gut. [1] These seem to be essential, and if there was a general takeaway to improve health, it would be to eat your roughage so they can do their job.

This is also why high alpha-diversity (community richness in particular) is such a dead-ringer for healthy vs diseased states. And frustratingly, is often exactly where the story ends for a lot of observational studies.

Also, in case you are curious, artificially sterile mice (gnotobiotic mice) tend to act differently than other mice, which is pretty odd to be honest, and why the gut-brain axis is a plausible mechanism to research further. [2]

[1]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10180739/ [2]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S088915912...

[dham]

Just like the gut you have to have the right bacteria. Not none. This is a study on Psoriasis which is caused by systematic inflamation.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9076720/

[iammrpayments]

Cavities are caused by corrosion from acid produced by a bacteria called streptococus mutans, they digest the sugar in your mouth and produce acid, they thrive in slightly acidic environments. If you have other types of bacteria in your mouth, they will leave less sugar to be digested and will also produce byproducts that make leave your mouth ph less acidic.

[johnea]

This one only discusses the benefits of the microbiome in broad terms, but it has a bunch of interesting introductory info:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6503789/

tl;dr > The oral microbiome usually exists in the form of a biofilm. It plays a crucial role in maintaining oral homeostasis, protecting the oral cavity, and preventing disease development.

That NIH article also refers to some fields that are experiencing wide recent advances: the gut/brain axis, and communication from the skin microbiota that stimulates the first immune responses to pathogenic organisms.

This link describes some aspects of the skin microbiome:

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20250402/How-your-skine280...

I up-voted your post. I don't think there should be a penalty for asking for a reference. Although, I'm not always in the mood to dig up _good_ links on subjects that I've read enough to form an opinion.