[karaterobot]

The ideal scenario isn't the government forcing a sale of TikTok for political reasons. The ideal is that people stop using TikTok because they realize it's not good for them, but I guess I don't see that happening. Instead we'll just continue scrolling while wondering why we're so unhappy and angry all the time.

[nostrademons]

I had heard that the existing TikTok app will shut down in the U.S, with the investment consortium launching a new TikTok US app and re-training the algorithm on U.S. users only. If this is true, it might have the same effect: speedbumps where users have to download a new app and lose all their personalization often lead to massive drops in userbase, as they figure that if they have to start from scratch anyway, they might as well start from scratch doing something else.

[dboreham]

They (Andressen et al) won't do it that way.

[xnx]

> The ideal is that people stop using ______

Fill in the blank with whatever you find personally disagreeable: TikTok, alcohol, sports gambling, hallucinogens, video games, cigars, sugary foods, etc.

[estimator7292]

Some things are objectively bad with no space for interpretation or personal opinion.

[panja]

Yeah I don't think tiktok is one of those things

[solace_silence]

Yeah, it's just benign ads and people having fun. What's all the fuss about?

/s

Is it really a mystery that there's concern about corporate media consolidation and collusion with governments to self-serve their interests over individuals?

I mean, this is beyond naive if you dismiss what's happening and will continue.

[asacrowflies]

It's isn't naive. They know how bad it is and profit off this. They don't want it to get better

[didntknowyou]

what do you think people will do, get off tiktok and go outside to hike? if anything they will just switch to instagram reels there's no good scenario here.

[Rebuff5007]

IMO the ideal is incredibly strong data privacy laws such that it does not matter if consumer products are owned by a rich guy in Mountain View or Abu Dhabi.

[AdamN]

Privacy (a big issue) is the least of our problems with media ownership by hyper-elite royalty.

[sentinelsignal]

Unfortunately you're right. Including the last part.

[mxkopy]

Scrolling TikTok I get cool videos from underground artists, memes and skits

Scrolling HN I find hateful stances about hyperspecificties, overconfident self righteousness, and new peaks of misanthropism