[righthand]

I’m not disparaging it, just actualizing it and sharing that thought. If you don’t understand that most modern “tools” and “services” are gamified, then yes I suppose I seem like a huge jerk.

The author literally talks about managing a team of multiple agents and Llm services requiring purchase of “tokens” is similar to popping a token into an arcade machine.

[dgfitz]

I read a quote on here somewhere:

"Hacker culture never took root in the AI gold rush because the LLM 'coders' saw themselves not as hackers and explorers, but as temporarily understaffed middle-managers"

[righthand]

Interesting and agreeable.

Also hacking really doesn’t have anything to do with generating poorly structured documents that compile into some sort of visual mess that needs fixing. Hacking is the analysis and circumvention of systems. Sometimes when hacking we piece together some shitty code to accomplish a circumvention task, but rarely is the code representative of the entire hack. Llms just make steps of a hack quicker to complete. At a steep cost.

[hiAndrewQuinn]

Electricity prices are also token-based, in a sense, yet most people broadly agree this is the best way to price them.

[righthand]

I’m not following your point. What is the disagreement about Llm pricing?