[DoctorOW]

> Are you arguing for a system where employers consider your political views before hiring you?

Would you put a Nazi and a Jewish person in a room every day (or on a Zoom call or whatever) and expect something productive to happen? Well, no. It's a ticking timebomb. If you have an organization with multiple employees, they'll have to be people who can work together. So as a workplace, you need to either rid your employees of their discriminating views or rid yourself of employees who cause problems.

[lan321]

If they can be professional, yeah? I have diverse private interests that don't really get mixed with work. Don't see why my political interests should. I've worked with people I don't personally like. It's more tiring since there's less chit chat but the work gets done all the same.

[wahnfrieden]

The employee in question did not keep these beliefs private, and posted publicly (and not hiding behind anonymity) about them. They were also a public figure as the "GNAA" president, a hate group, a position they took over from Weev, the Stormfront administrator.

[4ggr0]

your private interests probably don't include the wish for your co-workers to be harmed, killed or at least treated like a lesser being.

[_heimdall]

Is this fictitious Nazi working with a fictitious Jewish person acting on those views or discussing them at work? If not then why should their employer care, and why should we actually support the idea of workplace discrimination?

[wahnfrieden]

This is not fiction. The employee was real.

[DoctorOW]

> Is this fictitious Nazi working with a fictitious Jewish person acting on those views or discussing them at work?

There's a reason I say "ticking time bomb" in my comment. Hypothetical Jewish person keeps kosher for instance. Is that "acting on" being Jewish at work? What about wearing a yarmulke? If that is, how do you rectify it? If you allow yarmulke, is a swastika armband okay? Both are clothing choices depicting "views".

[_heimdall]

I don't care what religion or political views they have. Its a workplace, if either person can't check it at the door then that's the problem to deal with.

Honestly its pretty insulting to both of the people involved for you to assume so strongly that they couldn't be professional that (a) you never give them the chance and (b) you chose to hire only the one who you agree with (or disagree with the least).

[kiitos]

the people talking to you are talking about something very different than simply "political beliefs that you disagree with"

the appropriate level of capital gains tax at the 80th percentile is a political belief that you can tweet about in your personal time and allowing there to be a civil relationship with your colleagues in a professional environment. this is a political belief that reasonable people can disagree with.

asserting the supremacy of the white race is not a political belief that you can tweet about in your personal time while still allowing a civil relationship with your colleagues in a professional environment. this is not something that reasonable people can disagree with.

[close04]

> Would you put a Nazi and a Jewish person in a room every day

Today's Nazis have more diversified targets for discrimination. Concentrated antisemitism was a side effect of the personal issues of the most famous Nazi exponent in history, but they're more about racial supremacy. Today they might be Islamophobic more then antisemitic.

To answer to your question, their thoughts and views don't matter in the office, their behavior does. You can deeply dislike a colleague for various other reasons too but the effect is the same. I don't want to be fired because I unilaterally hate, or even love, my colleague. As long as I don't act on it, that is.

I know people working together in the same office where one's grandfather was in the Nazi military guarding one camp, the other's was a civilian killed in that camp. Whatever their deep feelings, they mind their job as expected.

[wahnfrieden]

What counts as acting? This employee was openly self proclaimed Nazi, member of groups that spread explicitly Nazi ideology online, and the leader of a hate organization (previously led by Weev, the Stormfront administrator, who handed over the president position to them). I don’t understand quick defense of this.

[close04]

> What counts as acting?

Acting is doing something, as opposed to saying something. One of them counts as freedom of speech and hint, it's the one you quickly attacked. It's when you go to work and do your job as per the contract which can demand you not express certain opinions in the office but not in your private life.

> I don’t understand quick defense of this.

You are like those people who gagged Kimmel because they didn't like what he was saying. You will quickly defend firing people just for saying they support abortion rights (which is illegal in many states), or LGBTQ+ rights. You playing the "you defend Nazis" card works both ways. Just like you taking away freedom of speech works both ways. I wonder if choosing a German name was intentionally ironic.

I don't have to like a guy or his opinions to defend a bigger principle.

[wahnfrieden]

This employee organized and led explicitly Nazi ideology hate campaigns. Freedom of speech applies to government. I still don't understand the need to hire organizers of Nazi hate campaigns that advocate for extermination, or (maybe you accept this though) for the responsibility of the public to avoid criticism or organizing boycott of businesses for hiring individuals that publicly advocate for exterminating them. The issue isn't illegality, or advocacy for anything in general, but public advocacy for extermination (of Jews, black people etc.), understanding that a government does not make that illegal (which I didn't advocate for changing).

The username is irrelevant and older than CloudFlare hiring Nazis