[burkaman]

You don't think any election in the last 10 years has made a measurable difference? Elections are the result of voting en masse.

[adastra22]

In the gerrymandered district in which I live, no.

[JumpCrisscross]

You’re seriously claiming you had zero competitive elections of consequence where you live? No local elections? Referenda? Competitive primaries?

[adastra22]

Some school district and property tax measures. That’s why I vote (and just for the general principle of it). Even my state and local reps are gerrymandered into lifelong stability.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Even my state and local reps are gerrymandered into lifelong stability

Your leverage is in surfacing primary challengers. Even if they win, it’s a drag on time, energy and capital.

Elected will pay attention to groups that can petition for and support a primary challenge. Even if they’re gerrymandered.

[adastra22]

They win with 80+% margins. They don’t even bother campaigning themselves and delegate it to their staff. The party wants it this way and is actively hostile to any primary challenges.

I have better things to do with my time than charge at windmills.

[JumpCrisscross]

> They win with 80+% margins

Yes. I’ve lived in these districts. They still don’t want a challenge.

> The party wants it this way and is actively hostile to any primary challenges

Of course. They’re hostile because they don’t like it. Not much of a threat if you’re going to do something they like.

> have better things to do with my time

Then say this. Of course civic engagement takes time and effort.