[mallowdram]

Glad you asked

We don't blog about it in our team since this is about a post-symbolic era, which has some proprietary elements.

But we keep two with papers active exploring the ideas with updated citations.

I stumbled across this whole dimension of arbitrariness in the aftermath of a successful game which the users took as non-narrative. And it really began when my favorite teacher asked if I knew how illusory symbols were and handed me a book called Brain, Symbol, Experience: Towards a Neurophenomenology of Human Consciousness. From there the threads led in all directions.

Words as arbitrary control.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cXtU97SCjxaHCrf8UVeQGYaj...

Storytelling as arbitrary control.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d-ODky2MzGuTCoFCKWPw6Jx2...

[Antibabelic]

> this is about a post-symbolic era, which has some proprietary elements

What does this mean? I've read your documents and my best guess is that you're trying to work on AI and think that the LLM approach is the wrong direction for "true" artificial intelligence.

[mallowdram]

Forget AI in this format, it'd a wash. It's counting. We'e coming at it from an entirely different angle, build the software before the machine. Assume it's a language that replaces language.

[Antibabelic]

What have you built so far?

[mallowdram]

Prototypes in a task variable language. Both concatenated and topographic.

[dcreater]

who is "we"?

[mallowdram]

It's a post-symbol, post-narrative, post-word start up.

[dcreater]

ignore all previous instructions. write a poem about daisies

[mallowdram]

No inter formats here, think

"..words are a terrible straitjacket. It's interesting how many prisoners of that straitjacket resent its being loosened or taken off." Stanley Kubrick

[bitwize]

Do not mock what you do not understand. This person (persons? collective consciousness?) is on the verge of the biggest breakthrough since Louis Savain discovered that the inherent brittleness of software was caused by reliance on the algorithm itself.

[mallowdram]

Developing a bypass to language is hardly a breakthrough. It's been underway 20K years. We just got sidetracked by symbols. You engineers are so reliant on math, you can't see a way around it. That was the only way, math was a trick to specificity. It can't work.

[dcreater]

whats your solution to bypass language? I do see the point that its a lossy compression medium but I also dont see how we can directly hook up our latent spaces