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by watwut 263 days ago
> doesn't realize that the normalizing of violence in response to speech actually represents a substantial deviation from historic American norms.

What alternative history you are talking about here?

Also, right wing actors including Kirk himself were promoting violence for years already. As far as American right wing goes, violence is a cool thing that makes you manly man. It is just that it should go one way only - from them to others.

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> Also, right wing actors including Kirk himself were promoting violence for years already

I'm specifically referring to the left's acceptance of violence in response to political speech, for which there is no equivalent consensus on the right, for example, that they can and should go around assaulting Marxists, Islamists, or others with whom they fundamentally disagree.

And Kirk, for whatever faults he had, and however performative were his events, sought to debate his opponents--not encourage his followers to assault them. I couldn't find anything about him "promoting violence for years."

Kirk supported deporting naturalized citizens for their support of palestine.

Professors on TPUSA's watchlist regularly received death threats. I know at least one who left the country. Kirk clearly knew of this effect of the watchlist.

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> . Do most conservatives agree with "punch/kill Marxists/Islamists/Anarchists" (and similar variations)?

Yes they do. Most conservatives support harm and violence to those who are not them. You see that on who they vote for, on what they say and what kind of influencers they promote.

> do most leftists currently agree with "punch/kill Nazis/fascists" (and other variations)

No they dont. They leaders openly dont. And they do not vote for those who promote violence.