[marcosdumay]

Because there is no real doubt about those.

If some media comes disagreeing, they are blatantly lying. Also, there should not be diverging narratives about whether if you jump off a cliff, you will fall.

[dekhn]

there is more scientific doubt about the true effectiveness of COVID vaccines than you think.

[marcosdumay]

Do you have any study that found any of the 3 western ones ineffective?

The effect is so strong and universal that everybody finds it.

[dekhn]

No, I don't really argue about individual studies with individuals on the internet. What I'm describing is the current consensus opinion of the larger medical and research community.