[cyberpunk]

I don't really understand the outrage either. If he was planning on including his political views in the speech, that's something else, but I personally don't give much of a fuck about the political views of anyone, especially wouldn't use it to inform my technology choices.

It seem impossible for some people to allow anyone with dissenting views to their own to even exist anymore, pretty sad set of affairs.

What's the old quote? "Your right to swing your fist ends at the other guys nose?" Perhaps we'd all do better keeping that in mind.

[edent]

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[cyberpunk]

Eh, maybe I would actually.

Firstly, I don't give enough of a fuck about what any individual thinks and I certainly don't do background checks on conference speakers.

Secondly, where do you draw the line? Shop workers? Hair dressers? Your taxi driver? Many of those in the country in which I am an immigrant would gladly forcibly deport me and separate me from my family; but I don't run scared enough of them to try to silence them or hide from them.

Also, I think you're being somewhat dramatic here saying he openly called for imprisonment and executions, but please provide sources if I'm wrong.

[edent]

I've literally asked a taxi driver to let me out early because he started a racist rant. With a hairdresser, I'd leave a bad review (never argue with someone holding scissors).

The thing is, now that you do know someone's views - what are you going to do?

People with abhorrent views should learn that people disagree with them. Otherwise they will continue to spill their toxic poison everywhere.

[cyberpunk]

Don't you realise this cuts both ways though? Your views are abhorrent to them, why are theirs worth less than yours?

For sure I don't agree with those people, but they absolutely have the same rights as we do to have their own opinions. Trying to silence them just makes you as bad as they are. We can't change the current state of global discourse, but we can each be more tolerant of each other and that starts with ourselves.

[edent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

[baggy_trough]

It's kind of amazing when leftists post this unironically, given recent events.

[benmmurphy]

I think democracy and the market are amazing tools. We can strongly disagree with people but are able to peacefully choose how we are governed without resorting to violence and then we are able to peacefully trade and exchange with people we otherwise hate to our mutual benefit. This is an amazing piece of technology that makes the world a much better place but people seem very determined to throw it away.

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DHH has proposed killing people?

[edent]

Have you read his blog post about London? The one where he praises the racist convicted criminal Stephen Yaxley-Lennon? The one where he described the violent march as being full of "normal, peaceful Brits"? The one where he stirs up ethnic tension by talking about "rape gangs" from one minority (despite the stats not backing up his assertion)? The one where he lavishes praise on an obsessive trasphobe?

What do you think he is trying to do if not incite violence and hate?

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By that standard, wouldn't DHH say that you're trying to kill him and people like him? Has he used his power to demand that people that share your viewpoints aren't platformed at tech conferences?

[edent]

No.

I am not advocating violence against him. I am not trying to get him thrown out of his home.

The thing is, DHH can really easily stop being racist. Then people won't complain when he's invited to speak.

But the people he is complaining about cannot change their skin colour. They cannot change their nationality (according to him).

The people DHH support are advocating violence. They aren't asking politely for people to leave - they are threatening.

DHH is welcome to tell people not to come to my conferences. People can make up their own mind whether to listen to his opinion (or mine).