[melasadra]

Java still so popular after all this time. I've been re-learning java using the excellent University of Helsinki's MOOC course.

Was thinking of learning some spring boot and create a small project or two to reinforce what I've learned. However it feels like tutorials for spring boot is of so much lower quality compared to newer language/frameworks like JS/React/Python. Often times it's just a talking head over a powerpoint presentation talking for 30 minutes.

Could people recommend me a good tutorial for spring boot (or anything java that is being used in enterprises)?

[throwaway2037]

    > I've been re-learning java using the excellent University of Helsinki's MOOC course.

This sounds interesting! Can you share a link?

[ramblerman]

I truly don't understand this on a tech forum. You have 6000 karma, is this a bot interaction to promote votes?

How does searching "Helsinki MOOC java" not immediately give you the result you are after?

[stonemetal12]

I copy pasted it in to google. The first result might be it but it says "Please note, that this is a legacy course. ... The course content is also no longer updated or maintained."

No hint on how old and moldy it is. Does it teach a relatively recent Java or 1995 Java?

So asking if that is the right one doesn't seem out of line.

[melasadra]

It teaches Java 8 which is used by most enterprises.

Supposedly enterprises are finally starting to upgrade to Java 17 and 21.

Example : How Netflix Uses Java - 2025 Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpunFFS-n8I&t=4s

[Imustaskforhelp]

I mean :/ Let me be devil's advocate, You have added yet another comment without actually giving a link to that...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFrggyDXdUk&list=PL2s7AeEJ2f...

And I mean, I do feel like that as long as they aren't actively harming the "ethos" of hackernews, then we can cut each other a little slack each other

I feel like I have sometimes done a disservice like this too to HN where I ask for links sometimes and maybe they just wanted to confirm if this was the right course or they might be coming from a job tired and didn't think this tooo much y'know?

But i mean I also understand your standpoint that you want less clutter on HN which is why I feel a bit :/

[ramblerman]

I was questioning if OP was a karma farming bot, have a look at their profile. It's a lot of these odd one liner questions.

From the perspective of a useful thread, I agree with you

[Imustaskforhelp]

Ahh, just checked it and I think you might be correct but here's my nuanced take

Yeah I can also understand it, but I just saw their comments and scrolled down to find it ``` Nah, DotNET is amazing these days. At the risk of starting a holy war, it is neck-and-neck with Java, and I say that as a Java fanboi. I think it is good to have healthy competition between languages (and ecosystems), like C++ and Rust (and a little bit Zig) or GCC and Clang or Java and DotNet or Python and Ruby or NodeJS and Deno. Plenty of people are compiling and deploying to Linux after DotNetCore went open source. Plus, you can use JetBrains Rider, which is a cross-platform IDE for C#, from the makers of IntelliJ ```

It just seems that their use of words like boi etc. makes them (genz?-ish)

I am genz too (maybe younger than them, still in HS) but yeah maybe they just write one liners which can be quite common but I see that more on the reddit kind of things and not hackernews lol. I can definitely see our generation's attention span being cooked that when I write remotely as long as this, they say nah I ain't reading it. So well, how are they gonna write it for the most part :/

It might be a bot but then again, what is the point? The point I see of HN points is that I might create a new account and be the same guy and kind of accrue them back because I once had it y'know while being myself not writing some one liners lol.

The fact that I like about HN is that I have talked to soooo many people that I admire whether its a one liner from jose valim or etc. and I am happy that hackernews exists to a somewhat degree :>

Like just out of curiosity, has someone ever got any job or smth through HN in the sense that they had their karma in part of their resume and the company was impressed lol, I can see it to a somewhat degree in maybeee startups

[melasadra]

Interesting, the one I actually used was the text based course hosted by Helsinki U itself.

https://java-programming.mooc.fi/

[ratStallion]

This site has great tutorials for Java and Spring:

https://www.marcobehler.com/courses/spring-professional

[nunobrito]

Oh, please run away from Spring Boot. It is just the new JBoss. That is OK if you want to get inside enterprise software for a living, but that isn't the best usage for Java.

My opinion: learn to create Android apps in Java. Tutorials are good and you get a new set of skills (if not already). After that, focus on learning POJO which is the fundamental knowledge in Java.

Everyone writes stuff in Java/C++ where I work, but less and less Spring Boot is encouraged because of the bloat do debug and performance troubles.

[watwut]

I think that java has more of a written culture then make the video culture.