[amanaplanacanal]

Well yes, thinking people should be treated equally regardless of their sexuality or color of their skin is good, and the opposite is bad. Is that the kind of "very left leaning position" you had in mind? Or something else?

[poszlem]

What you described is, of course, a perfectly honest account of the issue, and definitely not a strawman set up just to be knocked down.

[amanaplanacanal]

Do you have some idea what they meant by extreme left leaning issues? I'd like to hear your take.

[hombre_fatal]

Sure: importing migrants with no end in sight while shutting down any convo over what the limit should be; there is no limit and you're racist if you disagree.

And it's not a principled position on open borders nor open migration but instead part of a double standard. These same people probably cheer on the protests in Mexico City against white gringos in Condesa.

That's how I'd summarize the far left position. The far right one is probably that migrants are bad. And I suppose the middle position is that there's a problem when immigration rate outpaces cultural assimilation.

[amanaplanacanal]

Is unlimited immigration really popular among the far left? Sounds more like a libertarian position to me.

After some quick googling I can't find any groups that support that.

I did find a poll that shows 64% of Americans support creating some path for undocumented immigrants to get legal status. I'm not sure you could call 64% a far left position though.

[hitekker]

Here's a NYTimes article from 2020 https://archive.md/uJl8t and another from 2025 https://archive.md/5az0U. No one wants the "open borders" label but there was and still remains many who see migrants as the source of their personal salvation.

[tbrownaw]

> After some quick googling I can't find any groups that support that.

They don't "support unlimited immigration", they reject the legitimacy of national borders and of immigration as a concept.

For example here's the DSA explaining their view that the national border and immigration statuses are capitalist and imperialist tools to divide the working class: https://www.dsausa.org/blog/fighting-the-security-state-at-t...

[amanaplanacanal]

Excellent! Thank you for finding that, my Google fu isn't as strong as it used to be.

I'm still not sure that's representative of the far left. Like I said, the more right wing libertarian position is probably the same, though for different reasons.

[mkfs]

> Is unlimited immigration really popular among the far left?

That this is being memory-holed, much like the ill-conceived bilingual education initiatives of the 90s, is actually a good sign, as it's proof that we're winning.

[RhythmFox]

You just happen to hold this 'middle position' I imagine?