[potato3732842]

My point is that "bad" build quality is basically a non-difference. It was never a problem, or it's a manufactured problem in people's minds. Sure, tesla is probably "worse" from a statistical perspective but the average buyer could never see this. You almost have to be looking to see it, and so you're not gonna see it unless all your other problems are solved.

Like if every OEM sets out to build a car of the same specs, they're gonna all be within spitting distance of each other. You'll have to scrape the bottom of the barrel (i.e. "muh build quality) to find differences.

Tesla was winning before because they were the only ones who set out to build a car of that nature, build quality was a non-issue because it simply isn't an issue. It only became a meaningful one after the fact when more cars of the same sort arrived on scene and people went looking for minutia.

[estearum]

I’m not arguing from a statistical perspective and nor are buyers using that.

When Tesla came out, its build quality was awful but it succeeded because people wanted EVs.

Now there are EVs that don’t feel like Mattel toys, and Tesla is doing very very badly, in part because its build quality is still very bad which is now a glaring problem in a more competitive field.

[apercu]

I agree pretty much with your entire thread, but if Elon was Warren Buffet people who think Tesla is a premium brand would still buy them. It wasn't the lies or the quality that turned people off, it's the cost, lack of customer support and - most impact-fully - that Elon is a whiney little man child and performs racist actions.