[rramon]

Tekin, what makes a Turk less white than a Greek or Spaniard?

If it's cultural (religion, music/sports related subcultures and codes) then it's chosen. Nobody can force you into a subculture in the West. As soon as you turn 18 you can essentially do what you want, most likely even way before that.

You can chose your subculture, how you dress, style your hair, talk and are read by the mainstream society. Actual racists go by skin color and ignore your cultural choices, fuck them.

[____mr____]

Not really, racists often include ethnic features such as hair texture or even nose shape within their criteria for racial exclusion.

While in certain cultural contexts Turks may be read as white, within Europe there is a history of excluding them from whiteness and presenting them as a threat to European culture, mostly due to Islamophobia

[kgwgk]

The last paragraph is funny because Turks themselves use the expression White Turks to refer to the modern/secular/Western (as opposed to the Black Turks, conservative/Islamist).

[rramon]

Ethnic features = things you can nothing for, same category as skin color.

I was talking about the culture you chose and the stereotypes that go along with it. Stereotypes override ethnic features unless you actually deal with real racists.

DHH might not be street smart enough (like most people in tech) to see through those stereotypes on the streets of London.

[____mr____]

I'm not sure I completely understand what you are saying.

You start your original comment by asking what makes Turks non white which I answered, and from what I understand you believe that choosing to participate in a culture from the diaspora you are a part of means that you have to bear the burden of the stereotypes about that culture, even if they are racist in nature? And furthermore, you believe that people that believe these stereotypes are not real racists because real racists only care about skin color?

Again, I could be misunderstanding, but I don't think that you need to only care about skin color to be racist. I think that DHH's anxieties about replacement of naitives being mostly focused on MENA people feels like a pretty clear sign he believes that non European (aka non white) immigrants are a problem, which to me, is racist.

[berkanunal]

What exactly is your point? Is abandoning your religion and what music you listen a requirement of integration?

This is how your point reads like: Just cosplay as a white european christian, and if you still experience racism... well fuck those racists.