[trwhite]

That “I’m glad I lived my life as I lived it” line (or something to that effect) you hear criminals like these say is sickening. They acknowledge what they did was bad and express no remorse for the clear destruction they caused to other people’s lives. It’s cowardly and he should serve much longer in prison.

[observationist]

I think that's the inability to articulate well, as opposed to a celebration of his wrongdoing. He seems to be talking about how he thinks better of himself, that he doesn't think of himself as a bad person, and pairs it with a condemnation of what he did and the group of people that enabled it. Hopefully he serves good time, grows up, and comes out a credit to his family and society.

>>> The following evening, Noah rang from jail. He said he wished he hadn’t hurt his family, or his victims, but he seemed hopeful that the friendships he made would endure. “I’m not saying what I did was a good thing, it’s a horrible community, and what I did was bad,” Noah said. “But I loved my life. I like who I am. I’m glad I was able to live life as I lived it.”

[Taek]

Especially if he went through a period of being suicidal or otherwise deeply struggling with his situation, those words do seem more genuine and forward-looking than saying something like "yeah I'd do more crime if I could".

[shkkmo]

That seems like a lot of credit to give someone whose main criminal skill was being articulate and talking people into things.

[observationist]

You have the choice of assuming the worst in everyone, or not.

This kid was not a silver tongued charismatic con man able to dupe and swindle victims, he was taking advantage of ignorance, incompetence, and bad management. his criminal skill consisted of being able to repeatedly and shamelessly call people and repeat a plausible script. High school drama club skills - not "hacked the school server to give everyone 4.1 GPA" skills.

I can grab a clipboard and safety vest and get almost anywhere in the world, even sounding awkward and not particularly smooth, because people expect IT and technician types to show up and be given access to nearly anywhere. "Hi, I'm from IT, I need to get to the phone line/computer in back/ network cable for the display" - people are gullible and ignorant, and the "hackers" that figure out that fact get away with outrageous things based on that alone.

They farmed out these low level social engineering tasks to dozens or even hundreds of participants whose only "skill" was to learn that "one little trick" which broke the security model of all those corporations and departments. That's how law enforcement swept this guy up, because he was not technically proficient or particularly good at what he was doing, from a security standpoint.

10 years of prison is definitely going to mature this person - all I'm saying is that I wish the best for him, because ultimately, that's what best for all of us. I hope he finds a purpose and meaning in life that obliterates the superficial exploitation of people that landed him in prison, and makes the world a better place for his family and community when he gets out. If he can still think of himself as wanting to be a good person, to be better than he was, then I think there's probably hope.

If he was completely unrepentant and unwilling to be accountable, it'd be different - No credit at all to him, I'm just hoping for the best and recognizing that possibility seems to still exist for him.

[shkkmo]

> You have the choice of assuming the worst in everyone, or not.

I'm not assuming the worst...that would be assuming he intends to find a way to continue managing an online gang from jail...

> the superficial exploitation of people

It wasn't superficial. He had a huge negative impact on a lot of everyday people and profited from it enormously.

> I'm just hoping for the best and recognizing that possibility seems to still exist for him.

I also hope he turns his life around and do believe there is a chance, but statements like the one quoted don't give me much hope. He pays lip service to saying what ge did was wrong and calls the community horrible, but he still wants to be friends with all the people with whom he became friends by engaging in criminal conspiracy with them.

The judge decided to throw the book at him and I think the judge was probably right. Maybe the extra years will give him time to understand the damage he caused.

[trwhite]

Do you think he'd have felt remorse if he wasn't caught?

[mothballed]

I think there's a very large segment of criminals that express remorse at sentencing as pure theatre, the courts know but they give brownie points for humbling yourself before the court.

Honestly it's refreshing to hear the truth. I thought something similar at sentencing when Weev told the judge he hoped she'd give him the maximum so people would "storm the docks" and that he not only didn't regret it but wouldn't be so nice next time, which only made it all the more sweeter when the bitch's sentence got totally vacated.

[karlgkk]

well, i disagree

weev over-estimated his popularity. he was a deeply unpleasant person, and he didn't have a movement or any fans of him in a personal way

in addition, his whole shtick was being as annoying and confrontational as possible. "weev belongs in jail but not like that" was the general sentiment i heard

so no, it wasn't "sweet". he could have rotted in jail and nobody would have cared other than the awful precedent that ruling would have set. and that'd be the most fitting end tbqh lol

> he not only didn't regret it but wouldn't be so nice next time

despite all of his hard chatting, he immediately fled the country after he was released. last i heard he's living in some eastern european shithole pretending he's huwhite and running the stormfront servers (im not joking). loser behavior

[watwut]

Well, he is a full on nazi so, no he was not nice.

> which only made it all the more sweeter when the bitch's sentence got totally vacated

Yeah, everyone who does not admire toxic nazi is a bitch.

[mothballed]

Not a bitch for not admiring a Nazi, a bitch for sentencing someone to an alleged crime that didn't even happen in her jurisdiction and with no legal conviction. She should have known better, and the appeal was so strong and with so many problems with that case that my most likely conclusion is she was an insane tyrant who's goal is to override the rule of law by virtue of wearing a funny looking robe.

[wubrr]

> and express no remorse for the clear destruction they caused to other people’s lives.

They obviously do multiple times in the article, including the same paragraph you referenced in your comment.

"He said he wished he hadn’t hurt his family, or his victims, but he seemed hopeful that the friendships he made would endure. “I’m not saying what I did was a good thing, it’s a horrible community, and what I did was bad,” Noah said. “But I loved my life. I like who I am. I’m glad I was able to live life as I lived it.”"

Did someone steal your shitcoin?

[z3dd]

> I’m glad I was able to live life as I lived it.

he's not even pretending he has regrets. All that around is just PR, he's a serial manipulator and there's no reason to believe that he's suddenly changed after such a short period of time.

[wubrr]

> He said he wished he hadn’t hurt his family, or his victims

He literally says he has regrets in the first sentence of the paragraph.

> All that around is just PR, he's a serial manipulator and there's no reason to believe that he's suddenly changed after such a short period of time.

Maybe. That's you opinion. I'm not a mind reader, and I don't really care. Plenty of white-collar criminals get much lighter sentences for stealing much more money.

[hn_acc1]

He also says multiple times that "this felt like me" and "I loved living this life" and the FBI agent says, based on their experience, he had no remorse.