[khamidou]

I think you got things mixed up, open source projects survive because volunteers believe in them and want to contribute to them. Large companies rarely get involved, occasionally with some funding.

It sounds like they sold something to their donors they couldn't really guarantee – supply chain safety – and they decided to alienate their contributors to try to appease them.

Only time will tell if this was really damaging to the ruby community or just a temporary hurdle

[dewey]

Look at the core maintainers of Rails for example. Many are paid by Shopify and Basecamp, so it’s much more commercial than your regular open source project.

Which isn’t a bad thing that people get to contribute on company time.

[khamidou]

Again this is mixed causality. Rails did not take off because of commercial interests – besides dhh who was working on it on the side, all the initial committers were doing that for fun.

Eventually they brought rails in many commercial companies and these companies succeeded to the point they could pay people to maintain rails.

[dewey]

Rails was built in a company to build commercial products so I’d say it had commercial interests from day one.

> 37signals built Rails for Basecamp and has since used it to create all their web products.

From: https://rubyonrails.org/foundation/37signals

[stickfigure]

However it started, there's a big hosting bill and somebody has to pay it.

[weaksauce]

most of the hosting is donated for free outside of the influence of monetary donations.

[khamidou]

For sure – but maybe it doesn't have to be the side project of a non-profit whose main thing is RailsConf.

[ryoshoe]

To be fair to RubyCentral, this year's RailsConf was the last one they have planned, though it's likely that they'll shift focus to on RubyConf in its place

[type0]

of course Rails is mainly commercial

gems and bundler is for everyone though, even hobbyists writing scripts. Alienating contributors who support common infrastructure for no good reason is just plain stupid especially when those projects wasn't theirs to begin with