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by _fat_santa 271 days ago
IMO one of the things that makes HN so special is the "culture" here. Having been on here since 2018, most folks here are acutely aware of the issues that other sites like Reddit have and we all collectively work to preserve this space so it doesn't become like the other places.

If I see a meme on Reddit I would probably upvote it, but if I see that exact same meme on here I would downvote and probably report it too. That decision comes from a place of wanting to preserve this space and I'm sure many other folks on here would very much agree.

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Interesting, for me Hacker News is just about being reasonable. Consequently, I find all other online places so far unreasonable. I am on Reddit, but honestly, it’s more of an anthropology thing rather than anything else. Sometimes I see if I can vibe with the subreddits, and I can. The problem is usually I feel awful because a good faith discussion generally can’t be held. To me, vibing in many subreddits just means promoting values that I don’t actually stand behind.
Can definitely understand that... Most of my Reddit use is limited to a few more technical subreddits that are focused on older tech. I can't stomach going anywhere near the political subs, for example.
What's been a learning experience for me is seeing Reddit, HN, Facebook, discords, private slacks, and the mainstream media discuss some thing I went through, and the different faces they all have about it. Reddit was just a barrel of negativity about it. So was half of TikTok. Facebook however was mostly full of positivity and happiness, but obviously my Facebook feed is curated to be my Facebook friends. Maybe it's something about the "anyone can join" aspect that both enhances but also destroys the community?
> Reddit was just a barrel of negativity about it.

Oh, I can relate to that one.

In reditt, the exact same comment can give you 1K upvotes along with lots of gratz/you-are-the-man/misc-admiration replies or 1K downvotes/you-suck/you-are-a-retard/misc-hate replies along with a moderator/shadow ban, depending on which sub-reditt you are in.
I wonder how much of the difference is just because HN doesn't allow you to post / display images inline like Reddit does, forcing users to engage with the content (written or video) rather than just reflexively upvote low-effort content.
> display images inline like Reddit does

That's a relatively new development. The cultural aspects that you're describing were already in place (entrenched) well before Reddit integrated that feature.

It's because of the people who come here. You might post about a project and discover that the person who made the thing is replying to you.
I think that is the bigger difference, I agree, but I think the format and media involved still have an effect on the type of discussion that takes place
I would say that was true until recently (have basically been lurking for a decade), but this year in particular it feels like HN has gone full Reddit.

More and more topics somehow devolve into emotional political fights instead of intellectual debates.

I had some political fights here recently, but I also had some insights and genuine discussion even from viewpoints I find entirely unreasonable, which I think I wouldn't even have in real life.
The insanity of US politics has more and more real impacts and is impossible to ignore, sadly. It's the forest fires of the tech scene.
Agreed, though the culture doesn't persist by accident. Without ongoing moderation (which has been excellent), I believe it would eventually be lost.
Just checked my homepage, and realized that I created an account in May 2008! 17 years of Hacker News. Practically a lifetime. Time flies.
If you really wanna trip, use the HN API and find some of your earliest comments and go read them
Is there a hidden parameter to stop the paging for your comments?
Yeah, memeing on HN makes about as little sense as trying to have a frank conversation or indulging in a contrarian view on a hive mind subreddit. Not that it can’t be done, but requires so many defensive qualifiers that it takes all the fun out.
The most difficult thing to protect against is the down-voting of posts you disagree with on HN. That’s the culture of Reddit, but it’s here on HN more and more.
You just made me look at how long I've been coming here. I'm still internally struggling with whether that is something I needed to know!
Didn't realize it'd been 13 years for me, and I felt like I came into this space relatively late. lol.