[ActionHank]

There are still people who dictate their emails to a secretary.

Technology changes, people often don't.

Programmers will be around for a longer time than anyone realises because most people don't understand how the magic box works let alone the arcane magics that run on it.

[some_random]

Sure and there are still people who take a horse and buggy into town, but we are well past Peak Horse.

[ActionHank]

A closer analogy would be scribes and the printing press.

Except it doesn’t fit. For a while now we’ve had access to basically all the knowledge in the world and most people don’t use it.

Why would people make the effort to build a website using AI when they didn’t do so with any of the existing no-code options available.

They won’t.

Will dev be exactly the same in 10 years time? No.

Will there be more devs than there are now? 100%

Will experienced devs make bank? Yes.

[onionisafruit]

Exactly. I know I’ll still be programming in 5 years. What I don’t know is whether anybody will be paying me.

[catigula]

"We can remove your programmers valued at millions per month for $100/month secure cloud agents"

Pretty easy sell.

[svieira]

Yes, it is an easy sell. But when that happens this sentence will also be viable - "We can remove the need for your company, valued at multiple millions a month" ... because after all, PMs and CEOs aren't harder to replace than programmers at that point.

[ActionHank]

Crazy how well that’s been working

[catigula]

The technology isn't there yet.

All signs point to it rapidly progressing towards this inflection.

Current agents are insanely good, every decent programmer using them knows this.

[ActionHank]

> The technology isn't there yet. Yes

> All signs point to it rapidly progressing towards this inflection. Not really

> Current agents are insanely good, every decent programmer using them knows this. Also not really

If you find them "insanely good" you were likely doing work that was already very repetitive or broadly implemented by others.

They have their uses, but it isn't as pervasive as people believe.

[catigula]

Tell me you haven't extensively used Claude Code or Codex GPT-5 without telling me.

[ActionHank]

Used both, they're great for boilerplate. Anything more they breakdown.