[Halan]

It doesn’t matter. UK education is flawed already by the time a student reach tertiary. A levels leave such a gap in people that I would go as far as adding it to the reasons for the country issues. People in the UK, even if they study at Oxford, are likely more ignorant than many Europeans having done classical studies in high school.

[KaiserPro]

> People in the UK, even if they study at Oxford, are likely more ignorant than many Europeans having done classical studies in high school.

wait so you're saying an entire country is rubbish because oxford has a worse classics degree than an unspecified country in Europe?

[Halan]

I am saying that these rankings are onanistic if you factor in that post industrial education has already fucked up British education. I don’t mention which country in Europe because it could be many, most of them actually have classical studies with schools up to 18-19 where you study all the subjects.

[twixfel]

The UK system ranks a fair bit above the antiquated German system, you should be aware that there are 3 types of schools, with only one that teaches Latin etc., and the other two of them are considered shit, one German even told me that if you go to the lowest level of secondary school, your best bet is to just kill yourself. But it's certainly neat meeting lots of young Germans who studied Latin in school but nevertheless know absolutely no Latin once you ask them about it. Fabulous system.

[Halan]

Ask anyone from French, Spain, Italy, Greece, etc. living in London and in tech if they believe their British peers are their equals intellectually.

There is a reason why these people dominate the top 1% jobs in tech in London.

I am flattered you read my bio but I don’t actually live in Germany lol

[mna_]

>Ask anyone from French, Spain, Italy, Greece, etc. living in London and in tech if they believe their British peers are their equals intellectually.

Why are they in the UK then?

[twixfel]

I suppose you must simply have a planet-sized chip on your shoulder in that case.

Terribly sorry a British woman broke your heart, or whatever it was that someone did to you. All the best.

[Halan]

Then explain why people from southern Europe who can stomach English weather can come to London with a 2:1 degree or lower bachelor degree, speaking a language that its not theirs and compete on the job market with people with a 1st degree from a brick lane university?

Also those people don’t say full fat coke referring to a regular coke because they did biology instead of just math and physics from 15 years old and don’t have £80k of student loan to repay.

UK is suffering from the education it offers its people.

This is apparent in the law system having to be super simple to be understood to a point that it is not fair. For example, the £100k treshold for child benefits that is per person instead of per family income because people would struggle to follow it.

There are many examples to this. I wish all British people would speak another language properly and spend some time in continental Europe instead of comparing themselves to USA on matters of education and welfare.

[twixfel]

What is there to explain? Your examples make no sense, aren't even bad things, or are purely anecdotal. For example, that smart people from Southern Europe can move to London and thrive is something Britain can be proud of. There certainly aren't any immigrants moving to any continental European countries and getting the top jobs, they're invariably reserved for the locals. The fat coke thing is nonsense, it's just a turn of phrase, that you never came to understand that says more about you than anyone else. Having a shit tax system like the household vs personal income thing is nothing unique to Britain. And if Britain was so uniquely poorly governed, the continental countries would be wildly better governed, but they're not. Some are, some aren't.

Anyway I don't know what happened to you in the UK but I'm sorry that it did.

[Halan]

I am just in the 1% top UK earners working 25 hours a week from the comfort of my sofa with my average European education, broken English and working class background.

I feel shame for how easy was for me to get a great life in this country when most locals struggle with social mobility.

I get that full fat coke is an idiomatic phrase but it stems from honest ignorance towards macronutrients. I am a diabetic type 1, I had to explain that carbohydrates and alcohol can affect your blood like sugar to endless British people lol

Please, if you are monolingual and monoculture, just have some healthy skepticism about well eradicated habits in this society. That’s what I want to inspire in my friends

I lived here for over 20 years. Speak other two languages natively because my parents were from two different European countries. This is an informed opinion not hearsay!