[phony-account]

> I would also remind the short of memory that during covid, the states with the most draconian restrictions were mostly left-leaning, and many were loathe to give up that control. Control of the people comes from all sides

This depiction of Covid restrictions (restrictions that were actually relatively permissive given the seriousness of the disease and the unknown nature of the virus at the time) as though they were an authoritarian power grab by malevolent politicians instead of a health policy, is part of the problem.

Maybe if people had been willing to accept a small curtailment of their personal desires for a short time for the sake of the common good, rather than framing it as a dictatorial punishment,we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re heading into now.

[qcnguy]

None of the COVID measures had any effect on public health and yet they were enforced long after that became obvious to anyone watching the graphs the government themselves published. And the nature of the virus was known within weeks of it appearing - there were no real surprises from that point on. It acted very similarly to any other respiratory virus with the only differences being the unusually steep gradient in age effects.

COVID was 100% an authoritarian power grab by public health officials. Zero percent actual health. And public health is an overwhelmingly left wing and political field, being as it is the idea that health should be managed collectively.

[n4r9]

It's well-established scientifically that lockdowns and other non-pharmaceutical measures reduced transmission and deaths considerably.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd9338

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.15.21249884v...

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s1291...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-01009-0

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...