[strcat]

> My impression is that Apple's threat intelligence effort is similar in quality to Google's.

We have a lot of direct experience with Google not having much of a clue about how their own devices are being exploited in the wild. The overall approach does not provide as much insight as it's marketed as doing.

[saagarjha]

Ok, come on, be reasonable. You finding a Cellebrite price list does not mean you know more about how Pixels are targeted than Google because their marketing team put something out saying they’re super hard to hack. I have worked directly with Google’s threat research teams and they are well aware of their limitations while also having better insight than you’re giving them credit for.