[dh2022]

Are you volunteering yourself and your kids to not taking medication and seeing doctors in your old age? Or are you volunteering "other people"?

[groggler]

Seems like a nasty interpretation to assume a grandfather is other people and make it a straw man argument..

We could just as well ask:

Are you volunteering yourself and your children for 30 years hooked up to tubes with partially effective pain medication?

[mikestew]

Are you volunteering yourself and your children for 30 years hooked up to tubes with partially effective pain medication?

No one spends 30 years hooked to tubes. Ask better questions, or at least dial back on the hyperbole if you'd like a reasonable discussion.

[groggler]

I don't think that is accurate.. but my point was the hyperbole of assuming the pathological case.

[dh2022]

Your point is very difficult to understand. I answered your question even though I did not understand its relevance.

[groggler]

It sounds like you have not had much off the record contact with members of the medical community. Perhaps a summary of the beliefs of the community I grew up in would help:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40494645/

[dh2022]

Huh? To answer your question: yes, I absolutely volunteer myself and my kid to be alive as long as possible.

If possible I would volunteer you and your family to stop getting medical care when all of you get old.

Fair?