[somenameforme]

The source that pushed the fake picture is this [1] account with some 5 million followers that regularly posts disinformation and agitprop. That is also the same account that claimed he was a 'groyper'. Go check its stream and you can find endless more absurd claims.

People then simply unquestioningly repeated the claims, cited the same disinformation, and away we go - social media style. For instance here [2] it showed up in an Anandtech discussion, and I already linked to the claims making their way onto hacker news in dozens of posts as well. To say nothing of the cess pools that are Reddit, X, Facebook, etc.

[1] - https://xcancel.com/YourAnonCentral

[2] - https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/charlie-kirk-shot-in-th...

[croon]

Again, I don't think that picture is relevant to the claim, and you ignored everything else from my comment.

> Halloween photos showing Robinson riding on the back of an inflatable Donald Trump or dressed as a gopnik offshoot of Pepe the frog, the now-anachronistic alt-right meme that evolved into the groyper mascot.

> Groypers had hassled Kirk at public appearances over the years for what they saw as his insufficiently radical conservatism. (Fuentes has forcefully denied any connection to the shooting and told his followers he would “disavow” and “disown” any who “take up arms.”)

> But as the internet quickly pointed out, “Bella Ciao” is both an anti-fascist anthem from post-WWII Italy and a remixed track on a groyper Spotify playlist.

This would be misinformation if it would turn out to be false, but it would not be misinformation based on whether or not the shooter is leaning this way or that way or no way.

[muddi900]

That is not misinformation.

If you have sufficient evidence to make reasonable conclusion, which is negated by newer evidence. It is not misinformation.

Misinformation would be if you know something is not true and you twist facts around and present speculation in a factual manner to imply that it is true.

[somenameforme]

Are you done editing your post?

The source for the killer being a groyper is solely the disinformation account. The things you've mentioned are postfacto efforts to try to support the disinformation, in rather nonsensical ways I'd add. A Spotify playlist from some random guy, to try to create some 5d chess argument - also known as mental gymnastics, and Robinson riding around on a demeaned looking Trump doll 8 years ago? [1] If that's the best people can dig up, you should realize you're obviously being lied to.

[1] - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15092455/Trump-cost...

[croon]

> The source for the killer being a groyper is solely the disinformation account

No, the source is the string of corroborating incidents.

Sure, the two examples you bring up could be innocuous by themselves, but together with a "gopnik offshoot of Pepe the frog", his upbringing, and the fact that there are clearly fractures within the otherwise very top-down right-wing movement?

You're very adamant to dismiss any pieces of evidence as inconsequential (not as incorrect, mind you), yet resistant to provide any counter-factuals?

[somenameforme]

No, the source is literally the disinformation account. What you're seeing now is people trying to further spread disinformation by searching through his entire online past and trying to connect them to the groypers. And the best they've been able to come up with is him dressed as a gopnik (and that's all it was - the pepe stuff is more misinformation), and another with him with a Trump doll in a demeaning pose.

Nobody would, in a million years, reasonably think 'Ah hah - this must mean he's actually a groyper.' Stuff like this is exactly why Trump won the popular vote, something no Republican had done in 20 years. There is an increasingly rampant level of mental illness in the liberal camp regularly paired alongside outright denials of reality, and child-like efforts to gaslight.

A few more assassinations other degrees of political stupidity and we'll be well on our way to a one-party country. And I say this as somebody who has never once voted Republican, and until recently I would have readily identified as liberal. But now? It's starting to feel like a tainted term. My views haven't changed, but the distribution of views amongst self described liberals have, and I do not want to be associated with this madness.