[nunobrito]

Either of them. I can't even fathom how this would be your first time experience there, other people here on this topic confirm that it doesn't happen.

If you feel that is wrong, please describe the steps to replicate such situation.

[stonogo]

Happy to help.

Step 1: In 2023, notice a crypto spam post on Mastodon with a weird account name.

Step 2: Look up what could have made that post, which was bridged from some other service.

Step 3: Set up a key, grab a client (I used a web client that deployed to Netlify's free tier).

Step 4: Follow some howtos, add relays, follow some accounts that repeat other accounts, try to figure out how discovery works.

Step 5: Start seeing really disturbing content.

Step 6: Delete all this stuff, and write it off in the same bucket as Freenet.

Step 7: Wait some years.

Step 8: Get called a liar on a web forum.

[t1E9mE7JTRjf]

What relays were you on? I have never seen CP on nostr. Did you start off following the crypto spammer mentioned or that was just what caused you to find nostr? I'd be curious how you built your initial follow list, as that and the relays you were on is the source of what you see. Kind of like if you go to weird ass websites you'll see that content, but nostr itself doesn't expose anything to a user, it's only a network for content read/write.

[stonogo]

I did not keep detailed notes, but there were a couple Gists and a couple blogs that listed relays and stuff to follow. I'm perfectly willing to accept that there was bad stuff in thoses lists, but I don't really care about the mechanisms behind it. Easier just to move on.

[staticelf]

Sweden has a website called "dumpen.se" which tricks and publishes pedophile that are trying to abuse children.

The leftist media hates this website because they are doing an effective job. They are calling them all kinds of things.

When people are effective in tracking or publishing about pedos, there are always a lot of people saying you are the problem, not the pedos. I wonder why. There are a lot of pedos out there (just look at dumpens work it's kinda obvious) and they are of course using services that are anonymized and decentralized like any other.

Usually they are also very active online and attack people that try to cut their illegal actions online. Just look at my original post, it is downvoted. I just wanted some kind of action towards cutting pedo content and it is frowned upon by these people.

[nunobrito]

Very much unrelated to NOSTR which is a transparent network with a Web Of Trust enabled as default for users.

It is a grave and unfair accusation to associate NOSTR with such nefarious activities, that was the reason why so many protested against that labelling.

[jasonvorhe]

I don't see what any of this has to do with nostr.

[nunobrito]

Come on, so much effort writing and yet so vague.

The easiest way to try NOSTR is using any of the common web platforms like https://primal.net or https://yakihonne.com/

Heck, you can even install NOSTR clients directly from the App and Play store since years.

It is very unbelievable that you followed such a complicated process, even went to effort of deploying to a server (what?!?) and then somehow you see disturbing content without looking explicitly for it.

In case you are sincere, try it again using any of the common methods.

[stonogo]

It was years back and I didn't even care enough at the time to take notes on the process. I typed up the how-to partly as a joke because I found it funny some rando was demanding a detailed reproducer for an afternoon of screwing around ages ago.

I did find the client I used; it was called "branle". I'm not in the habit of installing random shit on my iphone, thanks. Deploying things to Netlify is super easy, especially when the software is designed for it explicitly.

I will not be trying again, because as I said elsewhere in the thread, I don't actually care about nostr. Bluesky is working fine for me these days, and in the event that stops being the case, I won't be revisiting the one I already wrote off.

[throwaway290]

Do you really think somebody would try out a new platform 2 years ago, immediately drop it due to shady stuff and remember all the non trivial steps involved in this process?

> you can even install NOSTR clients directly from the App and Play store since years

Since feb 2023, apparently;)

[nunobrito]

He just detailed a very weird and vague way that is unbelievable.

I'm a user since January 2023, there were plenty of well-known web clients already available back at that time (e.g. coracle, amethyst, etc). You enter the clients, there is a WoT by default and shows the most proeminent conversations typically.

My experience was never as the one he describes. Not even at the beginning, as you can see for many others here on this same publication. Those few (3?) cases mentioning otherwise will never provide real details for their claims.

[throwaway290]

it is possible if it is a protocol not a platform. Like there can be illegal stuff over http, there can be illegal stuff over nostr and a normal person can come across it. Actually way more likely on nostr because on web we have centralized https certs and dns which is used all the time to block cp and the like

It's funny when people first say "nostr is just a protocol and completely not subject to censorship" then "there is no way a new user would encounter bad stuff on nostr". pick one?

[jazzyjackson]

I know if I encountered CP on a burgeoning social network the first thing I would do is go on my blog and detail the steps to reproduce.

[throwaway290]

nostr is not a social network. per words of every nostr promoter. it's a protocol. it's like email

also you'll be committing an offence. the first thing you do is report it to authorities, not doing it is illegal. so that's half your day gone. then blogging about how to find it before it's taken down probably also illegal. literally no one wants any of this on a random day)

[yellowapple]

That is indeed multiple years, technically speaking :)