[turkishdelight]

Plus the shit is dirty to extract. On the one a hand I'd rather export our environmental disaster, on the other hand I think we really need to eat our dog food -- but I'm not confident that any amount of dog folding will lead to much change.

[paganel]

> On the one a hand I'd rather export our environmental disaster,

That's what Europe has done when it comes to most of its industry, and that is a big reason why now we (I'm from Europe myself) have to buy stuff like weapons from the Americans.

[scotty79]

It still better to push out all industry then bring some back as needed than let it run rampant and deal with health issues in whole generations of people.

[paganel]

> some back as needed

This doesn't seem to happen, at least not at scale.