[jrflowers]

> People have been fired from their jobs

This is a good point because a business choosing not to employ somebody is the exact same thing as the government mandating that a private company not employ somebody. Similarly, gummy bears and grizzly bears are the same thing: bears

[qzjxk]

These are different types of attacks on free speech but it comes from the same underlying intolerance of others' rights to free expression.

[the_gastropod]

These are different types of attacks on free speech the same way stubbed toes and decapitations are different types of injuries.

The federal government quelling speech is a very different thing than facing consequences for your speech in a private relationship.

[jrflowers]

I agree! The definition of an attack on free speech is anything that happens that I don’t like. For example Netflix raising their prices is an attack on free speech. People that have loud conversations on speakerphone in public are attacking free speech. When I’m at a picnic and a wasp lands on my sandwich? That’s not just an attack on free speech, that’s cancel culture. The wasp (government) is literally cancelling me exercising (eating) free speech (my sandwich)

[qzjxk]

Do you talk this sarcastically to people in real life? It's quite off-putting and gets in the way of conversation.

[jrflowers]

>It's quite off-putting

I don’t appreciate this attack on my freedom of expression. “Freedom of speech” means saying whatever I want and I am free from anybody forming any negative opinions about me or what I said. Any even perceived undesired consequence for how I express myself is an assault on my first amendment rights

[qzjxk]

No thanks.

[jrflowers]

I’m having trouble understanding your reaction here. Free speech dictates that everyone has to like me in the same way that free speech means everybody has to agree with you and tell you that your opinions about pronouns are good and correct.

It seems like we’re in full agreement here. Like the only way I could imagine that we’re at odds is if you just decided unprompted to share your opinions about gender in the Jimmy Kimmel thread and used “free speech”, again completely unprompted, as a shorthand to express your irritation at the fact that there exists some people that don’t agree with you.

That would be pretty silly though. Obviously you were sharing a single example that’s part of a larger and logically consistent definition of free speech (which we agree about), because it would be pretty bad faith to assume that you saw the Jimmy Kimmel thread and thought “Nobody is even discussing my take on pronouns on this page. I’d better get on fixing that”