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Of course, I would reject the same idea from the other side, no question. To me personally, all this religious hogwash about who is the chosen people and whatever amounts to no credible argument either way. Too bad the religious fanatics don't use their religion to do good and be social and friendly instead.

But that is a side issue, since Israel is the one taking territory away, that is not theirs to take. It is not theirs, due to people living in that land and having lived there for many generations. Then armed settler gangs supported by the IDF violently hunt Palestinians out of their homes and plundering them. That's not all of it, there are even cases of murder without prosecution.

So the point is the perpetrator, whether it is one side or the other, needs to stop, be put back into their internationally recognized borders, and we need to do what we can to make the perpetrator stay there.

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  > Too bad the religious fanatics don't use their religion to do good and be social and friendly instead.

Agreed 100% on that! Nobody was chosen and no land belongs securely to a single race.

  > since Israel is the one taking territory away, that is not theirs to take

This is incorrect. As frequently as Israel is accused of "stealing land", all land that Israel holds was won in a defensive war.

Now there are nuances of land belonging to the state, and occupation, and annexation, and personal property rights, and the relationship between different bodies ruling and maintaining (or not maintaining) areas A, B, and C. But Israel is not stealing land. If there are specific incidences that you would like to discuss, then please mention them. This is my hobby, I might have an answer ))

  > armed settler gangs supported by the IDF violently hunt Palestinians out of their homes and plundering them.

Please mention such an incident, I would much rather address a specific incident than talk in general.

  > That's not all of it, there are even cases of murder without prosecution.

Yes, I do agree that has happened. I'm not going to whitewash or deny facts.

  > be put back into their internationally recognized borders

You should be aware that the internationally recognised borders of the state of Israel include Gaza and the West Bank (but not the Golden Heights). These are the borders of Mandatory Palestine after Jordan was cut off (1923 I believe). The green line is a cease fire line - not an internationally recognised border. This fact was used to justify many cross-border attacks against the state of Israel. The principal is that a successor state inherits the borders of its predecessor state.