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by almostgotcaught 271 days ago
> I think you are missing the nuance between the different aspects of using the Python Interpreter, and integrating new functions with Python

What if I told you I used to work at modular? What would you say then to this accusation that I'm "missing the nuance"?

The rest of this is AI crap.
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FrustratedMonky 271 days ago
I think then I'd have to go back to your original reply, and ask what your point was. What is it you are finding objectionable? These one liner "doh, your wrong", isn't clarifying.

Do you really think Mojo is not based on Python? Or they are not trying to bypass Cuda? what is the problem?

The rest might be marketing slop. But I'm not catching what your objection is.

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almostgotcaught 270 days ago
> Do you really think Mojo is not based on Python?

what do you mean "do you really". it's not. full stop. what part of this don't you understand?

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FrustratedMonky 270 days ago
? Are we talking about same thing? Mojo, the new language for programming GPU's without CUDA?

The marketing and web site materials clearly show how they are using the Python interpreter and extending Python. They promote the use of Python everywhere. Like it is one of the most hyped points.

I think you are trying to quibble with, does the new functions get compiled differently than the rest of Python? So technically, when the Mojo functions are in use, that is not Python at that point?

Or maybe you are saying that they have extended Python so much you would like to not call it Python anymore?

Like IronPython, maybe since that gets compiled to .NET, you disagree with it being called Python?

Or maybe to use the IronPython example, if I'm calling a .NET function inside Python, you would like to make the fine distinction that that is NOT Python at that point? It should really be called .NET?

Here is link to docs. You worked there. So maybe there is some hair splitting here that is not clear.

https://docs.modular.com/mojo/manual/python/

Maybe it is just marketing hype that you disagree with.

But right on the main page it says "Mojo is Python++".

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almostgotcaught 269 days ago
> The marketing and web site materials clearly show how they are using the Python interpreter and extending Python.

brother you have literally not a single clue what you're talking about. i invite you to go ask someone that currently works there about whether they're "using the Python interpreter and extending Python".

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FrustratedMonky 269 days ago
From Docs, https://docs.modular.com/mojo/manual/python/

"This is 100% compatible because we use the CPython runtime without modification for full compatibility with existing Python libraries."

At this point you need to either explain your objection, or just admit you are a troll. You haven't actually at any point in this exchange offered any actual argument beyond 'duh, you're wrong'. I'd be ok if you actually pointed to something like 'well technically, the mojo parts are compiled differently', or something. You say you worked there, but you're not even looking at their website.

Creator Chris Lattner discussing why they used Python. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRcXUuQYR90

Start at minute 12. "Mojo is a very extended version of Python".

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almostgotcaught 269 days ago
Are you even a programmer? Do you know what any of these words mean?

> using the CPython interpreter as a dynamic library (shown as libpython.dylib in figure 1).

They're embedding the python interpreter not extending it - just like everyone and their mother has been able to do for decades

https://docs.python.org/3/extending/embedding.html

I repeat: you have no idea what you're talking about so in reality you're the troll.

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