[MacsHeadroom]

From the murderer's text messages:

> Roommate: Why?

> Robinson: Why did I do it?

> Roommate: Yeah

> Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.

Besides everyone around him testifying that he'd been left-wing ever since dropping out of college, his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left.

[suzdude]

Yet, out of the small fraction of people who had heard of Mr. Kirk, it was Mr. Robinson, who was raised by republicans, in a MAGA household who resorted to violence.

[throwmeaway222]

Like Luigi right?

[throwmeaway222]

What is your honest belief. All of the things below are in the news, you can copy and paste any of these quotes to back that up.

> "Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented," the court documents say.

> "She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views.

> Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga.

> Rounds in the rifle were allegedly etched with messages like "Hey Fascist! Catch!" and lyrics of the anti-Nazi and anti-Fascist Italian folk song Bella Ciao.

[suzdude]

If you want to allow sweeping generalizations:

"Left wing" kids are not brought up being taught violence is an acceptable solution to life's problems, or for the rage they may feel against others. That could be why there is an order of magnitude fewer deaths from "left wing" extremism compared to "right wing" extremism according to the DOJ [0].

"Left wing" kids are not given as easy access to, or training with, firearms. Conservatives, especially rural, are [1].

And please do not pretend that knowing, loving, or being a trans person prohibits one from holding conservative view points, that's rather hateful [2].

[0] https://www.scribd.com/document/918595498/Wayback-Machine-NI... [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts... [2] https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-caitlyn-jenner-sophia-...

[LeafItAlone]

> his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left

Ridiculous conclusion. Empathetic Right Wing people can also have found his speech hateful. Have you actually listened to any of it?

[throwmeaway222]

What is your honest belief. All of the things below are in the news, you can copy and paste any of these quotes to back that up.

> "Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented," the court documents say.

> "She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views.

> Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga.

> Rounds in the rifle were allegedly etched with messages like "Hey Fascist! Catch!" and lyrics of the anti-Nazi and anti-Fascist Italian folk song Bella Ciao.

[entropicdrifter]

Ah yes, a relatively moderate white supremacist who believes gay people should be executed and children should be forced to watch public executions. Just about as moderate as the Taliban

[throwmeaway222]

What is your honest belief. All of the things below are in the news, you can copy and paste any of these quotes to back that up.

> "Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented," the court documents say.

> "She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views.

> Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga.

> Rounds in the rifle were allegedly etched with messages like "Hey Fascist! Catch!" and lyrics of the anti-Nazi and anti-Fascist Italian folk song Bella Ciao.

[entropicdrifter]

I commented on Kirk's stance, not the shooter's. I don't endorse political violence.

I just take umbrage with the framing of Charlie Kirk as a moderate. He was a white supremacist. He believed that women shouldn't have the right to vote. He endorsed the state-sponsored execution of LGBTQ+ individuals.

These aren't moderate positions in the modern day, they're the positions of a religious extremist.

[throwmeaway222]

These are wild mischaracterizations of Kirk. You have a video of him saying any of that? Most of you lefty people are getting clips from Destiny that are clipped to show a wildly unfair characterization.

[entropicdrifter]

I'd feel a lot more inclined to engage with you on this if your first response wasn't a complete non sequitur that leads me to believe you've been engaging in bad faith from the jump.